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    You know what? from that defintion, he's done it again!
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    I haven't read many of stony's posts but the comments by some in this thread are awful. Many have made a direct personal attack against him and that is no better than what you are accusing him of. If anybody wants Stony to change his approach you are not setting a good example. Do as I say not as I do type thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red lake View Post
    I haven't read many of stony's posts but the comments by some in this thread are awful. Many have made a direct personal attack against him and that is no better than what you are accusing him of. If anybody wants Stony to change his approach you are not setting a good example. Do as I say not as I do type thing.

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    Red Lake,

    Please go back and read Stony's posts. Read several of them from over the years, and read the responses as well.

    Stony's approach won't change, regardless of any guidance or positive comments he receives. Stony's posts are INTENTIONALLY offensive and disrespectful. From the "tone" of his posts, he feels that most of us are complete idiots who will never see the light that Stony shines.

    Regretfully, kind words and encouragement won't change a person like that.
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    Granted, but two wrongs don't make a right. Just saying.

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    With some folks, you just have to be blunt - and even that may not work.

    I'm here for several reasons. One is a POSITIVE exchange of information and opinion. Another is that I actually like most everyone who posts here, even though I've only met one (Stargazer) and I do consider him to be a friend. And yet another reason is that most of the folks here will go out of their way to be helpful, both on and off the forum. They'll go the extra mile to raise your spirits when your down, or to help research a question you have, or to support each other in countless ways.

    Look at guys like Sourdough and the DOC that he came up with........

    Everyone here can have a bad day once in a while. However, when EVERYTHING someone posts is negative and utterly disrespectful, why not call it for what it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    With some folks, you just have to be blunt - and even that may not work.

    I'm here for several reasons. One is a POSITIVE exchange of information and opinion. Another is that I actually like most everyone who posts here, even though I've only met one (Stargazer) and I do consider him to be a friend. And yet another reason is that most of the folks here will go out of their way to be helpful, both on and off the forum. They'll go the extra mile to raise your spirits when your down, or to help research a question you have, or to support each other in countless ways.

    Look at guys like Sourdough and the DOC that he came up with........

    Everyone here can have a bad day once in a while. However, when EVERYTHING someone posts is negative and utterly disrespectful, why not call it for what it is?
    Well said Ken. If you notice I shy away from all the BS posts and usually dont post to them but sometimes enough is enough and you have to let your feeling be knowen.
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    He asked a question!

    As a fellow sinner, I'd throw him a line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel View Post
    He asked a question!

    As a fellow sinner, I'd throw him a line.
    2dumb threw me a line once.........

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    Cool And if that ain't enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stony View Post
    one speaks up in this forum.
    one is put on notice.

    how secure are our rights as citizen on this forum?
    why are we subjected to muzzeling?
    to satisfy the small minds of few?

    i know that everyone is an expert, everyone is a critic.
    Here's another point, you, yourself, agreed to the rules when you signed on here..were you lying? Are you a liar? based on your description of the right to free speech I can call your mother a slut, claim that you have "relations" with her on a regular basis & that your dad is a "flamer!" Because i have the right to free speech, based on your definition, you have to shut-up & like it!

    My point is that with every "right" that we enjoy in this country there is also the right of accountability &/or responsibility. I suspect that you are more in favor of anarchy than an organised group of people, which puts you at odds with most everyone on here; save for a few trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge47 View Post
    Here's another point, you, yourself, agreed to the rules when you signed on here..were you lying? Are you a liar? based on your description of the right to free speech I can call your mother a slut, claim that you have "relations" with her on a regular basis & that your dad is a "flamer!" Because i have the right to free speech, based on your definition, you have to shut-up & like it!

    My point is that with every "right" that we enjoy in this country there is also the right of accountability &/or responsibility. I suspect that you are more in favor of anarchy than an organised group of people, which puts you at odds with most everyone on here; save for a few trolls.

    Maybe this is a PM thang.

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    Stony is no longer a member of the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Stony is no longer a member of the forum.
    Oh, to be looking over someone's shoulder reading those PMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    2dumb threw me a line once.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit View Post
    I was throwing it at you...not to you.
    I've still got the bruise.
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    Stony is no longer a member of the forum.
    Dang, I liked Stony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge47 View Post
    Dang, I liked Stony!
    This is another reason I'm here. Better than a comedy club........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge47 View Post
    Dang, I liked Stony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    I'm practicing my magic act. I made him disappear.
    Could you turn your attention to the bills that arrived in my mail today?
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    Cool Hmmm.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Could you turn your attention to the bills that arrived in my mail today?
    Why not hire a lawyer &...oh, never mind.
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