one speaks up in this forum.
one is put on notice.
how secure are our rights as citizen on this forum?
why are we subjected to muzzeling?
to satisfy the small minds of few?
i know that everyone is an expert, everyone is a critic.
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one speaks up in this forum.
one is put on notice.
how secure are our rights as citizen on this forum?
why are we subjected to muzzeling?
to satisfy the small minds of few?
i know that everyone is an expert, everyone is a critic.
It's like this; this is a private forum, not a public one. Therefore the rights are on the side of the owner; which, in this case, is Chris. When you registered you agreed to follow the rules which is, in a sense, muzzling yourself. If you didn't want to do that you shouldn't have agreed to follow the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stony
A good example might be what is allowed in your home & what is not. When it involves private property the general rights of the public do not apply. Again, this forum is PRIVATE property & membership is granted to those who agree to abide by it's rules. That's called keeping order. :cool2:
So get used to the yoke, and be a good beast of burden :art:
I am going to paraphrase that great American 2D. Your freedom of speech does not take away my freedom of speech. You have shown on numerous occassions that your views and the views of the majority on this forum are not in line with each other. As much as I would defend your right to speak your mind, you need to respect the fact that there is a significant number of members of this forum that do not share your views and infact, as I do, find you insensitive, rude and frequently obnoxious. So it is your choice, accept , or hit the road. It is not like anyone will miss your inappropriate and gratuitous rants.
And please, continue to enjoy the freedom of speech that our military has made possible for you
AMEN!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pal334
All too often we think our rights supersede the rights of others. I think about Winnie and the place where she lives, and I'm grateful to live where I do. I'm also grateful to be part of such a diverse and focused community. This is a good opportunity for me to say thank you to everyone who tolerates me here. Mostly because I'm so intolerant.
Self restraint and mediation are simply public courtesy.
You asked the wrong question, Stony. You should ask why you are so out of sync with society. If one person tells you that you are wrong, blame the person. If two people tell you that you are wrong, then you need to think about it. If everyone tells you that you are wrong, then maybe you're wrong. I defy you to show me one post supporting you. Anywhere. That should tell you something if you would take the time to listen.
Most people never read forum rules or FAQs, especially if they have an agenda.
Chris's house. Chris's rules.
That goes for any private forum on the internet.
If people don't like the rules in a certain forum, they can go start their own.
<shrug>
Sometimes it is not the point of view that is the problem, it is the delivery of it that offends. Work on your delivery stony and you will find less trampling of your "freedoms"
Surely it's a simple matter of good manners. Whether it's a private forum or not, whether you agree or disagree, there are ways to say things without being inflammatory. Or you can keep your mouth shut and respect anothers opinions. JMO
I'd like everyone to note, that I'm biting my tongue......really, really hard.:innocent: LOL
Here are nine individuals all telling you that you were wrong. Maybe you should give it some thought.
There are times and places for freedom of speech such as when is it ethical and when it is not ethical.
The only time Free speech "Really" applies, Is when you are talking to yourself, Any time you speak your mind in public, you risk confrontation, So If you are looking for an argument, Go for it ,, lol
You know, Stony,
The fact that most of your posts are devoid of logic is of no consequence to me.
The fact that I disagree with virtually every opinion you have ever expressed here is of no consequence to me, either.
When you write posts saying that you don't need a BOB or that you disagree with the preparations we make - well, that's your opinion.
However, when you write smug and offensive and insulting posts, which always fly in the face of common courtesy and decency, I do pay attention. You're not only the village idiot, Stony, you're also an obnoxious man. If I were to venture a guess, Stony, I'd bet that most of the people who know you personally feel the same way as I do.
You leave an impression on people, Stony, and the impression you leave here has never been good. As a guy who professes to be so much smarter than everyone else, you must know, in advance, what the reaction to your inflamatory posts will be. So live with it.
it's pretty simple:
http://thehardwareindustry.com/ItemL...6000Troll1.jpg
Troll; from wikipedia:
n, internet slang
someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
many of us do it occasionally, for the genuine and sincere purpose of humor, but beyond a point, or with different intentions, it can become disruptive, and a privately operated and maintained forum has every right to enforce any policy it wished to prevent it.
Canid? Is that a RECENT picture of Stony? :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by canid
i thought it was a past picture of myself.
I was going to refrain from comment until I read some of Stony's posts. Well suffice it to say I couldn't find much to stand in his defense.
Not you, buddy. That ain't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by canid
sheesh,, Ugly kid , lol
You know what? from that defintion, he's done it again!
I haven't read many of stony's posts but the comments by some in this thread are awful. Many have made a direct personal attack against him and that is no better than what you are accusing him of. If anybody wants Stony to change his approach you are not setting a good example. Do as I say not as I do type thing.
:tsk:
Perhaps you should try reading his posts.
Red Lake,Quote:
Originally Posted by red lake
Please go back and read Stony's posts. Read several of them from over the years, and read the responses as well.
Stony's approach won't change, regardless of any guidance or positive comments he receives. Stony's posts are INTENTIONALLY offensive and disrespectful. From the "tone" of his posts, he feels that most of us are complete idiots who will never see the light that Stony shines.
Regretfully, kind words and encouragement won't change a person like that.
Granted, but two wrongs don't make a right. Just saying.
With some folks, you just have to be blunt - and even that may not work.
I'm here for several reasons. One is a POSITIVE exchange of information and opinion. Another is that I actually like most everyone who posts here, even though I've only met one (Stargazer) and I do consider him to be a friend. And yet another reason is that most of the folks here will go out of their way to be helpful, both on and off the forum. They'll go the extra mile to raise your spirits when your down, or to help research a question you have, or to support each other in countless ways.
Look at guys like Sourdough and the DOC that he came up with........
Everyone here can have a bad day once in a while. However, when EVERYTHING someone posts is negative and utterly disrespectful, why not call it for what it is?
Well said Ken. If you notice I shy away from all the BS posts and usually dont post to them but sometimes enough is enough and you have to let your feeling be knowen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
Truth be told I usually dont open posts started by certain people why waste my time.
Unless there new and the post starts with" I am going to live in the wilds forever with a tooth pick and a pair of underware". then I have to read it.
He asked a question!
As a fellow sinner, I'd throw him a line.
2dumb threw me a line once......... :sneaky2:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebel
http://www.coloradokayakfishing.com/...nchor_line.jpg
Here's another point, you, yourself, agreed to the rules when you signed on here..were you lying? Are you a liar? based on your description of the right to free speech I can call your mother a slut, claim that you have "relations" with her on a regular basis & that your dad is a "flamer!" Because i have the right to free speech, based on your definition, you have to shut-up & like it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stony
My point is that with every "right" that we enjoy in this country there is also the right of accountability &/or responsibility. I suspect that you are more in favor of anarchy than an organised group of people, which puts you at odds with most everyone on here; save for a few trolls. :bat:
:cool2:
Maybe this is a PM thang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Stony is no longer a member of the forum.
Oh, to be looking over someone's shoulder reading those PMs. :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
I was throwing it at you...not to you.:innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
I've still got the bruise. :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
Dang, I liked Stony! :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
This is another reason I'm here. Better than a comedy club........ :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
I'm practicing my magic act. I made him disappear.:innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Could you turn your attention to the bills that arrived in my mail today? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Why not hire a lawyer &...oh, never mind. :sneaky2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken