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Originally Posted by hunter63
Yep, Hunter that's what I'm talking about. The way things are going for me I may have to go full Doc Holliday and take to toting a shotgun.
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Originally Posted by hunter63
Yep, Hunter that's what I'm talking about. The way things are going for me I may have to go full Doc Holliday and take to toting a shotgun.
Ruger LCP 380. Conceals well in my loose fitting pants. Probably hide it in my swim shorts pocket. It is double action, okay from a safety standpoint.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/jglass/3701.jpg
Bersa 380 Great shooting gun, single or double action. To large to fit most of my pockets. Good cold weather gun because it will fit easily in a coat pocket.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/Bersa380.jpg
Made these to keep in my boat. They are 303 stainless. Upper one is 9MM and the lower one is 38 special.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ngerhomade.jpg
Jim
Looks like Cobray Single Shots?
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Originally Posted by Jim Glass
I left those behind years ago. I do, however, still wear the same size pants I wore in 8th grade. I just wear them a LOT lower. But at least I'm in style.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...id=10232&stc=1
Yes I reverse engineered the Cobray Derringer. I used the Cobray grips, hammer, trigger, safety and springs. Just for the record, 303 Stainless was a poor choice for material but they don't rust. 303 stainless is to soft for gun parts. You should see how the shell casings are leaving an imprint into the breach plate along with other problems. The 9MM is taking the worst beating. Should have made them 22 cal.
I found this site after doing an internet search on Cobray Derringers and a thread that Randyt made popped up. Been here since.
Is there another style of derringer similar to the cobray? If memory serves, there was a place in Piney Flats Tenn that made a similar derringer.
Same derringer, seems the companies kinda change hands?
One ad for the parts....
http://www.theflatspot.net/derringer...eech-face.html
This was the original thread about the Cobray
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ray+derringers
That company was Leinard INC. and was down in Ducktown TN. That is just north of Chattanooga.
They are still operating as far as I know.
They build kits but you have to make the side plates, drill the holes, weld the breech face to the side plates and keep everything in order.
Honestly, the AK from a shovel build is easier, and more effective in the overall run of things.
I downloaded a rather primitive catalogue from Cobray and I think kits are ordered out of Duck Town, Tn. Also references to Leinard in the Cobray catalogue. There is some kind of connection between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
The derringer side plates and breach plate can also be ordered but from a different source than Cobray. Kinda weird, go to google and search for Cobray side plates and a phone number pops up. I ordered 3 sets of side plates. The guy taking my order was driving a pickup truck at the time and had to stop to take my order and credit card number. The side plates and breach plate is made of high quality steel and laser cut for nice edge
finish. No drilling required, just a little welding. This way Cobray is not selling complete gun kits.
The Cobray derringer is not a bad little gun. It has a safety and the barrel is made of cast steel. The Barrel is also rifled. It is my understanding the completed pistols cannot be legally resold.
I have been buying the kits then I CNC machine my own side plates and wire EDM the breach plates.
I cut a set of side plates and breech face by hand about ten years ago. Hacksaw, grinder, drill press and dremil tool. It took me two days, but if I had pressed it could have been done in one.
If I had put in to work an extra shift at work, at my normal pay scale, I could have made enough money in the same time to buy a good pistol!
I realized that about half way through the build.
You know that making it easier or cheaper isn't the idea, right?...other wise quilts and knitted goods would cost $10,000 bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
I've been racking my memory on this piney flats tenn gun maker. I believe it may have been the MIL thunder five .410 revolver that was made there. I've spent a lot of time in that part of ten and remember 'something" about it LOL.
Yes, but you had fun plus now you have bragging rights. People are always interested in those guns I made. The other stuff I make that is much more complex, most people have little interest because they don't know what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
It took some time to make a CAD drawing of those Cobray side plates. I can machine out a pair of side plates in my CNC mill in about an hour.
The milling machine I used I made myself from scratch including the CNC control.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...3/MillDone.jpg
I would like to see the gun you made.
Jim, very cool machine......and as far as I know the master plan was never followed up on.
Also just though I should bring up that I was going back thru some of the links form the older threads....on one it wanted me to down load a manual....well got a whole bunch of crapola that was in virus form.
PC in shop.
Just be careful.
My smallest handgun is a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. A bit big for pocket carry unless you mean jacket pocket. But I do have a Ruger LCP on layaway.
Ended up getting a Taurus TCP. I'll get some range time with it this week.
Hey Crash, good choice!
But I have to qualify that.
I have a friend that bought a TCP and out of the box had constant feed and eject problems. She wanted to give up and take it back and I advised that it needed to be shot until it smoothed out.
Of course I am old school and grew up with a "break in period" as part of any gun purchase. I want to shoot a few hundred rounds out of anything before I consider it a carry gun.
Not an unusual thing to have to do but many folks want 100% function right out of the box. They think "It's new it ought to work!"
We drenched the pistol in 30wt oil and put 150 irritating rounds out of the TCP before it smoothed out and functioned 100%.
It's a nice pocket pistol but be prepared to break it in.
I don't consider any pistol broken in until it has at least 100 rounds through it. Bought 300 rounds with the pistol.
I picked up a ruger lc9 last week and have enjoyed it so far. Two ftf shooting tulla fmj in 100 rounds.
Here's a nice review on that weapon. A lot of folks frown on the .380 and harp that it's under powered for self defense but the lowly .380 was used by German officers in the Walther and Italian officers in the Beretta during WWII.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...aurus-738-tcp/
I've got another 380, albeit larger. For its intended purpose (close quarter self defense or a back-up weapon) it will work just fine I think.
I had looked at several reviews, but had not seen that one - thanks. It came down to that and the Kel-Tec. The Taurus felt more comfortable in my hand.......and they were on sale!
If you have not fired it be prepared for it to come back in your hand like thinks it is a "big boy".
Folks bad mouth the .380 as small caliber but in one of these featherweight guns it has a stout recoil impulse.
people badmouth the .380???????????? yet the .22 lr can do all? LOL
Tomorrow in range day for Mrs. Crash and me. I'll give a report on my thoughts.
One aspect of these "micro-pistols" is that if you have a CCW you will find yourself carrying every time you walk out the door.
None of this "I have a permit but I only carry occasionally." which I hear so much from owners of Beretta 92, 1911 and Glock owners.
No thought to how to conceal, what clothes work best?, will the holster work with this belt?, what if it prints?, bla, bla, bla.
You forget all that and drop the .380 in your pocket. My P3at has more carry time on it than any firearm I own just for that reason.
At home mine lives in the pretty ceramic bowl my late wife bought on our last vacation to Arizona, along with the car keys, c-phone and wallet. Where the car keys and wallet go the .380 goes too.
I thought about the taurus tcp as well but decided on the lc9 for the price and availability of the 9mm. The link Rick posted made it a strong contwnder for me. Coming with the veridian tac-light was a bonus. Might still get the tcp and a revolver in the future.
Back from the range and am happy to report that I am very pleased with the Taurus TCP. I ended running about 320 rounds through it with zero problems. I found it comfortable to shoot. I also ran about 100 rounds through my Jennings 22 that had been sitting in the safe for a looooooong time. No problems there either.
Then there was the Single Six and the S&W 40. All in all a fun day at the range. I think I'll do it again later this week.
Congrats on the purchase and sounds like a good time. I am glad that so far it is good for you. I had one of those and I ditched it. It was good out of the box, then about 400 rounds into it I started getting double feeds, no matter which magazine I used. I had five of them, and double feeds became rampant. I kept trying a bunch of stuff and then the slide pin broke. Taurus wanted me to ship the gun all the way to them to get a part that is taken out and reinstalled per their field strip procedure. I wasn't willing to ship a firearm for $35 and wait 4-6 months (their quoted turn around time) for something as simple as that. I hodge podged the thing back together and sold it to a guy that shafted me before, but that's a whole other story.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
I hope it turns out to be good for you.
I need to get a small frame pistol. I carry a Glock 21SF. The 45ACP makes me feel confident I can punch through a car door or windshield but the weight and bulk of it makes it impractical. Been looking at the Taurus Mel Pro in 45. Small with external manual safety
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