Originally Posted by hunter63
Yep, Hunter that's what I'm talking about. The way things are going for me I may have to go full Doc Holliday and take to toting a shotgun.
Yep, Hunter that's what I'm talking about. The way things are going for me I may have to go full Doc Holliday and take to toting a shotgun.
so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?
Ruger LCP 380. Conceals well in my loose fitting pants. Probably hide it in my swim shorts pocket. It is double action, okay from a safety standpoint.
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Bersa 380 Great shooting gun, single or double action. To large to fit most of my pockets. Good cold weather gun because it will fit easily in a coat pocket.
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Made these to keep in my boat. They are 303 stainless. Upper one is 9MM and the lower one is 38 special.
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Looks like Cobray Single Shots?
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I left those behind years ago. I do, however, still wear the same size pants I wore in 8th grade. I just wear them a LOT lower. But at least I'm in style.
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Yes I reverse engineered the Cobray Derringer. I used the Cobray grips, hammer, trigger, safety and springs. Just for the record, 303 Stainless was a poor choice for material but they don't rust. 303 stainless is to soft for gun parts. You should see how the shell casings are leaving an imprint into the breach plate along with other problems. The 9MM is taking the worst beating. Should have made them 22 cal.
I found this site after doing an internet search on Cobray Derringers and a thread that Randyt made popped up. Been here since.
Is there another style of derringer similar to the cobray? If memory serves, there was a place in Piney Flats Tenn that made a similar derringer.
so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?
Same derringer, seems the companies kinda change hands?
One ad for the parts....
http://www.theflatspot.net/derringer...eech-face.html
This was the original thread about the Cobray
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ray+derringers
Last edited by hunter63; 09-10-2014 at 08:21 PM. Reason: added link
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That company was Leinard INC. and was down in Ducktown TN. That is just north of Chattanooga.
They are still operating as far as I know.
They build kits but you have to make the side plates, drill the holes, weld the breech face to the side plates and keep everything in order.
Honestly, the AK from a shovel build is easier, and more effective in the overall run of things.
If you didn't bring jerky what did I just eat?
I downloaded a rather primitive catalogue from Cobray and I think kits are ordered out of Duck Town, Tn. Also references to Leinard in the Cobray catalogue. There is some kind of connection between the two.
The derringer side plates and breach plate can also be ordered but from a different source than Cobray. Kinda weird, go to google and search for Cobray side plates and a phone number pops up. I ordered 3 sets of side plates. The guy taking my order was driving a pickup truck at the time and had to stop to take my order and credit card number. The side plates and breach plate is made of high quality steel and laser cut for nice edge
finish. No drilling required, just a little welding. This way Cobray is not selling complete gun kits.
The Cobray derringer is not a bad little gun. It has a safety and the barrel is made of cast steel. The Barrel is also rifled. It is my understanding the completed pistols cannot be legally resold.
I have been buying the kits then I CNC machine my own side plates and wire EDM the breach plates.
Last edited by jim Glass; 09-11-2014 at 06:06 AM.
I cut a set of side plates and breech face by hand about ten years ago. Hacksaw, grinder, drill press and dremil tool. It took me two days, but if I had pressed it could have been done in one.
If I had put in to work an extra shift at work, at my normal pay scale, I could have made enough money in the same time to buy a good pistol!
I realized that about half way through the build.
If you didn't bring jerky what did I just eat?
You know that making it easier or cheaper isn't the idea, right?...other wise quilts and knitted goods would cost $10,000 bucks.
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I've been racking my memory on this piney flats tenn gun maker. I believe it may have been the MIL thunder five .410 revolver that was made there. I've spent a lot of time in that part of ten and remember 'something" about it LOL.
so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?
Yes, but you had fun plus now you have bragging rights. People are always interested in those guns I made. The other stuff I make that is much more complex, most people have little interest because they don't know what it is.
It took some time to make a CAD drawing of those Cobray side plates. I can machine out a pair of side plates in my CNC mill in about an hour.
The milling machine I used I made myself from scratch including the CNC control.
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I would like to see the gun you made.
Jim, very cool machine......and as far as I know the master plan was never followed up on.
Also just though I should bring up that I was going back thru some of the links form the older threads....on one it wanted me to down load a manual....well got a whole bunch of crapola that was in virus form.
PC in shop.
Just be careful.
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My smallest handgun is a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. A bit big for pocket carry unless you mean jacket pocket. But I do have a Ruger LCP on layaway.
Ended up getting a Taurus TCP. I'll get some range time with it this week.
Hey Crash, good choice!
But I have to qualify that.
I have a friend that bought a TCP and out of the box had constant feed and eject problems. She wanted to give up and take it back and I advised that it needed to be shot until it smoothed out.
Of course I am old school and grew up with a "break in period" as part of any gun purchase. I want to shoot a few hundred rounds out of anything before I consider it a carry gun.
Not an unusual thing to have to do but many folks want 100% function right out of the box. They think "It's new it ought to work!"
We drenched the pistol in 30wt oil and put 150 irritating rounds out of the TCP before it smoothed out and functioned 100%.
It's a nice pocket pistol but be prepared to break it in.
If you didn't bring jerky what did I just eat?
I don't consider any pistol broken in until it has at least 100 rounds through it. Bought 300 rounds with the pistol.
I picked up a ruger lc9 last week and have enjoyed it so far. Two ftf shooting tulla fmj in 100 rounds.
What's so crazy about standing toe-to-toe saying I am?
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Here's a nice review on that weapon. A lot of folks frown on the .380 and harp that it's under powered for self defense but the lowly .380 was used by German officers in the Walther and Italian officers in the Beretta during WWII.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...aurus-738-tcp/
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