View Poll Results: Who is the better survivor?

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    I just finished his book, only took two days of reading. Very informative, great book IMO.
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    Les never seemed to be an expert to me.I have never learned anything from the show.His shelters were poor as well as his traps.I do enjoy the show however for the entertainment,Bear Grills seems to be more experienced at survival and I have learned a few things from him.But I wont be squeezing an elephant turdball into my mouth for its water content,nor do I eat reptiles or hard shelled insects raw.I do love his show.I know some disagree with my opinion of Les but I just think I could do better in these situations,minus the camera work.

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    I think this was a good time for him to stop. He's done pretty much every environment short of urban. Another season would just seem redundant unless they put some stupid twist on it (and you know they will for ratings!).

    EDIT: What I would like to see is a 2-hour, or multi-part, session where Les faces off against Bear. Both dropped into the wilderness (same kind for both of them), different locations, and each has to film themselves (no film crew, Bears!). They have, say, 2 weeks to survive. First one to hit the emergency beacon loses. If both last, winner is whoever survived the best at the end. Put an end to Survivorman vs. MvW once and for friggen all!
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    Bear would win and Les knows it.[IMO]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairman View Post
    Bear would win and Les knows it.[IMO]
    That was without film crews, hotel rooms, and off-camera help, Stairman.

    My money's on Les, by a lot.

    Something I loved in Les's last episode: He went through all the various methods he's used in the past to start a fire, and said that this time he would use a different one. He then produced... his butane lighter! LOL!

    Particularly ironic since you survival experts seem to favor a simple Bic as your primary firestarting tool.
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    Ironic??? Wouldn't simple (and reliable) be your best option in a stressful situation?
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    Strange, because I'm moving away from lighters. I ran one under the sink for a few seconds and couldn't dry it off enough to start again for at least 30 min. Did the same with a firesteel and it starts good as new
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    Default Les vs. Bear

    Quote Originally Posted by mitch.chesney View Post
    What I would like to see is a 2-hour, or multi-part, session where Les faces off against Bear. Both dropped into the wilderness (same kind for both of them), different locations, and each has to film themselves (no film crew, Bears!). They have, say, 2 weeks to survive. First one to hit the emergency beacon loses. If both last, winner is whoever survived the best at the end. Put an end to Survivorman vs. MvW once and for friggen all!
    What do we think? Who is the better survivor, Les or Bear?
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    Oh god, not another one of these threads. PLEASE! one is already stickied! I'm not playing.

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    Pretty sure we did this before,pretty sure my vote stayed the same too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Ironic??? Wouldn't simple (and reliable) be your best option in a stressful situation?
    Yes, that's why it's ironic. It took 23 episodes for Les to finally use the best firestarting option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch.chesney View Post
    Oh god, not another one of these threads. PLEASE! one is already stickied! I'm not playing.

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    Ah, but this is the first one to actually incorporate a poll into it!
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    I'll never move away from a fire steel as they will work under any condition. As some of the pics I've posted reveal, when I travel into the bush I carry several options. Everyday, I carry a bic in my pocket (small kit in each vehicle with more options)....besides, I get funny looks when somebody asks for a light and I pull out the fire steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtdraino View Post
    Yes, that's why it's ironic. It took 23 episodes for Les to finally use the best firestarting option.
    Noooooow I get what you're saying. Guess he was just showing alternatives to what everybody already knew.
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    look above dude 50,000 veiws with 520 replies how about this who cares allan beauchamp will put both to shame
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    Gotta love his expensive knife, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairman View Post
    Les never seemed to be an expert to me.I have never learned anything from the show.His shelters were poor as well as his traps.I do enjoy the show however for the entertainment,Bear Grills seems to be more experienced at survival and I have learned a few things from him.But I wont be squeezing an elephant turdball into my mouth for its water content,nor do I eat reptiles or hard shelled insects raw.I do love his show.I know some disagree with my opinion of Les but I just think I could do better in these situations,minus the camera work.
    dude do your research, les has lived off the land with his wife for a year he has worked as a professional guide and survival insructor and trained with some of the best in thw world guys you probably have never heard of but are truley craftsman at what they do allan beauchamp and gino ferri to name two of many les has trained with imho he is the real deal can you prove the same about bear. you say you could do better than les? seriously dude what are your credentials for that mighty arroagant statement
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    There was a tragedy here awhile ago where 2 young tourists on jungle trek drowned. The guide told them not to go into the water as it was near rapids amd very strong current. They went anyway, and drowned. Afterwards the guide, who did not speak very good English, said they had told him "the guy on tv does it all the time." I don't know who they meant, but it shows you not to rely completely on what you see on tv.
    I do not see any of these shows over here but back in US I loved to watch Survivorman, and I did once see him drink jungle water with no filtration or boiling or anything, which did make him sick. I stopped watching the Grylls show after the waterfall episode. I also was broke down on Natchez Trace in middle of night back in 1974. Would not care to do it again.

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    I think Les is a better example. He doesn't go jumping off waterfalls or into rivers. He has a better example of survival. If you want to watch a show on survival watch him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wareagle69 View Post
    dude do your research, les has lived off the land with his wife for a year he has worked as a professional guide and survival insructor and trained with some of the best in thw world guys you probably have never heard of but are truley craftsman at what they do allan beauchamp and gino ferri to name two of many les has trained with imho he is the real deal can you prove the same about bear. you say you could do better than les? seriously dude what are your credentials for that mighty arroagant statement
    Not arroagence,If he's as good as you think he is then he sure is holding back alot of information on his show.A whole lot.Ive never saw him mop dew,build a warm shelter using natural fluff for insulation or build any useful deadfalls or snares.He starves half to death on every episode and freezes to death on every other show.Im not bashing Les,I love the show,but for its entertainment value and not for usefull information.

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