your favorite survival rifle?

[Rick]

That would just be Frank and Trax. No worry, there.

[crashdive123]

I think Hope has it right. If you like a single shot, just load one bullet. Me, I prefer options.

[Ole WV Coot]

See people? Like Frank just said, he used clear, concise, rational logic to make his point, vis: I'm right, you're wrong. You can't go wrong with nananana booboo to seal the argument. Way to tell 'em FVR, I bet you're gonna be just like Dad when you grow up. I hope I will.

That's what I like to see, clear and rational people like those two. We kicked this can before and think it was decided that a 10/22 was best for survival. That tiny piece of lead beats the dickens out of yelling BANG !. Saw a little spray and pray and I will admit it clears a path. You take their advice you may live long enough to thank them. Try a little common sense, rifle without ammo equals club, now you done went back several thousand years.

[JRJ]

Marlin model 60 22lr w/scope and sling. Ive taken everything up to white tail deer. 40 gr. copper is great but I have used 36 gr. lead hollow point plinking ammo and killed deer by placing a few rounds in the neck. Ive had the gun over 18 years and it operates flawlessly in a texas summer or a michigan winter.

[Rick]

Kicked....this...can....before. Rifle....without....ammo....equals....club. I'm sure glad I'm writing these down. Gems I tell. Absolute gems.

[Runs With Beer]

I can dig that, Nice quote.

[Runs With Beer]

The best weapon is the one you have when you need it.

[Gray Wolf]

Marlin model 60 22lr w/scope and sling. Ive taken everything up to white tail deer. 40 gr. copper is great but I have used 36 gr. lead hollow point plinking ammo and killed deer by placing a few rounds in the neck. Ive had the gun over 18 years and it operates flawlessly in a texas summer or a michigan winter.

Were those planed deer hunts with .22 (40gr copper and the 36gr. lead HP)? If so, and you weren't in a survival situation, that's sad.
JMHO

[rebel]

Kicked....this...can....before. Rifle....without....ammo....equals....club. I'm sure glad I'm writing these down. Gems I tell. Absolute gems.

I think someone is doing their homework for next years Cootism competition. Don't think I'm not paying attention.

[Rick]

Ssssshhhh. I'm not going down with a fight.

[Sarge47]

For myself, I want more than a single shot. Just in case a bunch of Nananana Boobooo's come over the hill at the same time.

Ya durn straight! Especially when they teamed up with the "Heathen Chinee Spambots," "TBWN", & those "Pygmies from down New Guinea way!"

[Blood Groove]

The problem, is ONE 3" shotgun shell, weighs roughly the same as (50) .22LR cartridges. and the 50 .22LR cartridges are about the same size as one 3" shotgun shell. I can put 300 rounds of .22LR in each front pocket, try that with 3" shotgun shells.

Ahh that's a good point, I never thought about the ammount of ammo that you could carry. Yea then I'd prabable want my pump action 22. Less complex than a semi auto 22 and it can hold more than 10 bullets. It also shoots 22 shorts as well as 22 long rifles.

[klkak]

I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self. - Aristotle.

I know that has nothing to do with the thread but everyone was posting such cool stuff I wanted to post something cool, too.

I agree with you Rick but I also believe it has everything to do with this thread.

A man overcomes his desire to buy an AR because of hearing some b.s. from a bunch of fear mongers is a brave man.

I agree with FVR about the .22. The only thing a person can do with a more powerful weapon then I with a .22 is make longer shots.

And for all the Nananana BoooBoooo's coming over the hill with AR's. Hit the Nananan in the head with the first shot. When all the BooooBooo's stop to look at their dead Nananana, shoot another one in the head. Most folks have no idea what to do at this point and either drop to the ground (where you can continue shooting more of them in the head) or they run. In which case you get up and go loot the bodies.

I have seen hundreds of Nananan Booooboooo's running around with M-16. With the first shot or GBS they all stop running and lay down. Easy pickings.

[klkak]

Were those planed deer hunts with .22 (40gr copper and the 36gr. lead HP)? If so, and you weren't in a survival situation, that's sad.
JMHO

All right now. I resemble that.

Cep'n I only needed one round for each deer I killed. One 40gr pill to the eye or ear and it's all over. Course I was hunting at night and barefoot with a 2 D'cell chromed metal ray-o-vac flashlight.

My mom and siblings could sure go through some venison. You'd a swore they had tape worms..............hmmmmm, maybe they did. I remember my youngest sister used to talk to someone named molly when she was in the bathroom. I opened the door once. Other then her on the pot there was no one else in there.

[Sourdough]

Ahh that's a good point, I never thought about the ammount of ammo that you could carry. Yea then I'd prabable want my pump action 22. Less complex than a semi auto 22 and it can hold more than 10 bullets. It also shoots 22 shorts as well as 22 long rifles.

Well, good for you BG, for seeing the light. You may not know this but even if .22 Shorts will not cycle through your Semi-Auto .22 and auto feed. You can still insert each cartridge by hand into the chamber, and hand eject spent case, in an emergency.

I do not at this time own a pump-action .22 however I am shopping for a pump .22 magnum take down.

[Rick]

I've said this before but I'll repeat it here. In a true survival situation, I think a larger caliber weapon limits you on the game you go after. Unless you live in the bush, like Hopeak, where do you store an entire elk? Moose? And you certainly won't take a squirrel or rabbit or bird with a 5.56 round. At least you won't have much meat left if you do.

My .22 can supply all the meat I need (assuming I can hit it), it's light, as Hopeak said, I can carry tons of ammo, can be used for self defense if need be, and is pretty inexpensive all around. What more could I ask for in a survival weapon?

Note to self: Never hit the ground when Klkak is shooting at me. He prefers a bit of a challenge.

[crashdive123]

All right now. I resemble that.

I do believe it was in reference to the "multiple neck shots" comment.

[Blood Groove]

Well, good for you BG, for seeing the light. You may not know this but even if .22 Shorts will not cycle through your Semi-Auto .22 and auto feed. You can still insert each cartridge by hand into the chamber, and hand eject spent case, in an emergency.

I do not at this time own a pump-action .22 however I am shopping for a pump .22 magnum take down.

Yeah I've done that befoer with my 10/22 and .22 shorts. I forgot about that. A 22 pump is really fun to shoot. A pump 22 magum sounds like a great survival rifle.

[JRJ]

I do believe it was in reference to the "multiple neck shots" comment.

Whats wrong with shooting your dinner multiple times in the neck? Dead is dead. I never had luck sinking a round through the eye at night, I figured I just suck at gaging how far away those blue/green pearls were from me.

As far as using a bigger round.. Ive been told you can "bark" squirrels. Place a round an inch or so away and let the shrapnel kill the animal without damaging the meat with the actual bullet.

[crashdive123]

Whats wrong with shooting your dinner multiple times in the neck? Dead is dead.

My thinking is respect for the animal. You are right, when you are putting food on the table dead is dead. I personally am of the belief that if you are going to take an animal it should be as quickly as possible. If that means getting closer to get the proper shot, then get closer. If that means using a round more suited to the abilities of the shooter, then use the proper round. I don't mean to sound preachy, those are just my thoughts since you asked.