Going deer hunting

**red lake** · 11-15-2008, 06:04 PM

Wednesday I got my PAL.
Friday I got my hunting license
Saturday Morning I got my new 12ga. Super Mag
Saturday Afternoon I got my first Grouse

With the gun, orange coat and hats, courses, licenses and government fees it cost over $1000 for 750 grams of meat.

Still worth every dime!

**red lake** · 11-15-2008, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by nell67

Not sure about ohio,but in Indiana it is restricted to shotguns.

I am not great hunter by any means but as I understand it, shooting a deer with a slug is not the best. It is messy and ruins a few good roast of meat.

A rifle seem like a much better way to bring down big game.

**Sourdough** · 11-15-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by red lake

I am not great hunter by any means but as I understand it, shooting a deer with a slug is not the best. It is messy and ruins a few good roast of meat.

A rifle seem like a much better way to bring down big game.

They Call that Poaching.......If the law say's shotgun only.......

What part of "RIFLED BORE and RIFLE SIGHTS was over your head........?????

**Sourdough** · 11-15-2008, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by red lake

I am not great hunter by any means but as I understand it, shooting a deer with a slug is not the best. It is messy and ruins a few good roast of meat.

A rifle seem like a much better way to bring down big game.

I would be interested to learn the "Terminal Ballistics" difference between a 20 gauge slug and rifle bullet....??????

**tsitenha** · 11-15-2008, 06:47 PM

I would imagine a 20ga with a rifled shotgun barrel/sights with a sabot slug would be quite effective... if it met the state "shotgun only restriction"

**Sourdough** · 11-15-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by tsitenha

I would imagine a 20ga with a rifled shotgun barrel/sights with a sabot slug would be quite effective... if it met the state "shotgun only restriction"

And destroy less meat, in point of fact, than say a .243 Winchester, or even the classic 30/30.

**nell67** · 11-15-2008, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by nell67

Not sure about ohio,but in Indiana it is restricted to shotguns.

or vehicles

although like I said,the insurance really frowns on that method!

Hopeak,I must correct myself here,as I was misinformed as well,but after obtaining a DNR book of regulations this evening,I discovered that in Indiana it is legal to hunt with guns other than shotguns during gun season,including rifles,and some handguns.
I apologize for my error.

**nell67** · 11-15-2008, 10:51 PM

This is from the Indiana DNR website on allowable hunting weapons for hunting deer.

Legal Firearms

Shotguns, handguns, rifles with pistol
cartridges, muzzleloading long guns and
muzzleloading handguns are legal during the
firearms season. Only muzzleloading firearms
are legal during the muzzleloader season.
Hunters may carry more than one type
of legal firearm when hunting during the
firearms season only. Shotguns must be 10-,
12-, 16- or 20-gauge or .410 bore loaded with
slugs or saboted bullets. Rifled slug barrels are
permitted. Combination rifle-shotguns are not
allowed.
Muzzleloading firearms must be .44 caliber
or larger loaded with a single bullet of at
least .357 caliber. Saboted bullets are allowed,
provided the bullet is .357 caliber or larger. A
muzzleloading firearm must be loaded from
the muzzle. Multiple-barrel muzzleloading long
guns are allowed.
Rifles with pistol cartridges that fire a
bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger; have
a minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and
have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches
are legal to use only during the deer firearms
season. Some cartridges legal for deer hunting
include the 357 Magnum, 38-40
Winchester, 41 Magnum, 41 Special,
44 Magnum, 44 Special, 44-40
Winchester, 45 Colt, 454 Casull, 458
SOCOM, 475 Linebaugh, 480 Ruger,
50 Action Express, and 500 S&W.

Legal Handguns for Deer
Hunting

Handguns, other than muzzleloading,
must have a barrel at
least four inches long and must
fire a bullet of .243-inch diameter
or larger. The handgun cartridge
case, without the bullet, must be at
least 1.16 inches long. Full metaljacketed
bullets are not permitted.
Handguns are not permitted on
any military areas. Some types of
handgun cartridges legal for deer
hunting include 357 Magnum, 41
Magnum, 44 Magnum, 44 Special,
45 Colt, 45 Long Colt, 45 Winchester
Magnum, 35 Remington and
357 Herrett.
Some illegal handgun cartridges
for deer hunting are 38 Special,
38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Colt New
Police, 38/200, 38 Long Colt, 38
Super, 38 ACP, 38 Colt Auto, 45 ACP,
45 Automatic and 45 Auto Rim. All
25/20, 32/20 and 30 carbine ammunition
is prohibited also.
Muzzleloading handguns are allowed. The
muzzleloading handgun must be single shot,
.50 caliber or larger, loaded with bullets at least
.44 caliber and have a barrel at least 12 inches
long, measured from the base of the breech plug
excluding tangs and other projections to the end
of the barrel including the muzzle crown.

Carrying Firearms

It is legal to carry a handgun while
hunting deer during the archery, firearm and
muzzleloader seasons, as long as the handgun is
possessed under a personal protection permit. It
is not legal to take a deer with a handgun except
during the firearms and muzzleloader seasons
and in compliance with DNR regulations.

**Sourdough** · 11-15-2008, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by nell67

Hopeak,I must correct myself here,as I was misinformed as well,but after obtaining a DNR book of regulations this evening,I discovered that in Indiana it is legal to hunt with guns other than shotguns during gun season,including rifles,and some handguns.
I apologize for my error.

No worries......I am still ordering the Rem. 870 youth deer, they have Rebates just now.

**Sourdough** · 11-15-2008, 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=nell67;82096]This is from the Indiana DNR website on allowable hunting weapons for hunting deer.

Legal Firearms
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Shotguns, handguns, rifles with pistol
cartridges, muzzleloading long guns and
muzzleloading handguns are legal during the
firearms season. Only muzzleloading firearms
are legal during the muzzleloader season.
Hunters may carry more than one type
of legal firearm when hunting during the
firearms season only. Shotguns must be 10-,
12-, 16- or 20-gauge or .410 bore loaded with
slugs or saboted bullets. Rifled slug barrels are
permitted. Combination rifle-shotguns are not
allowed.
Muzzleloading firearms must be .44 caliber
or larger loaded with a single bullet of at
least .357 caliber. Saboted bullets are allowed,
provided the bullet is .357 caliber or larger. A
muzzleloading firearm must be loaded from
the muzzle. Multiple-barrel muzzleloading long
guns are allowed.
Rifles with pistol cartridges that fire a
bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger; have
a minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and
have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches
are legal to use only during the deer firearms
season. Some cartridges legal for deer hunting
include the 357 Magnum, 38-40
Winchester, 41 Magnum, 41 Special,
44 Magnum, 44 Special, 44-40
Winchester, 45 Colt, 454 Casull, 458
SOCOM, 475 Linebaugh, 480 Ruger,
50 Action Express, and 500 S&W.

Strange State.......You can use a AR-15 chambered for the 458 SOCOM....

......

**red lake** · 11-16-2008, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by hopeak

They Call that Poaching.......If the law say's shotgun only.......

What part of "RIFLED BORE and RIFLE SIGHTS was over your head........?????

Not over my head! I am not misunderstanding the rule(not that I would ever need to hunt in IL). I am not sure why the rule is there. Is it a safety issue? Handguns but no rifles? Confused as to why.

**Sourdough** · 11-16-2008, 04:16 AM

Yes, the theory is to restrict hunters to cartridges with low ballistic co-efficient bullets, there by limiting accidents from "over travel", and intentional murder. Some forum members may not know that some cartridge/rifle/optic combinations can terminate a man size target 5,280 feet (one mile) away and farther.

New York State held the same theory 50 years ago when I hunted there. New York divided the state into northern tier and southern tier. The northern tier was mostly heavily wooded and the trees could stop the bullets, so you could use rifles in the northern tier. The southern tier being mostly open farm land was restricted to shotguns only. And some high density human concentration areas were restricted to Buck Shot only.

**crashdive123** · 11-16-2008, 08:06 AM

Now ya see.....I just learned why areas have shotgun only hunting. Thanks.

**Runs With Beer** · 11-16-2008, 04:36 PM

Good luck, Let us know how it went.

**Rick** · 11-16-2008, 06:39 PM

Thanks Nell for the post and Hopeak for the information. You know your weapons and ammo specs, I'll give you that.

Indiana's open farm land allows ammo to travel unusually long distances. As Hopeak pointed out, there just isn't much to stop it. As for it being a strange state, well, you only have to look at who lives there to understand that. Then again, I can walk in Wal-Mart with a .45 strapped to my side in full open sight and be perfectly legal. Can't say that about too many places.