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Thread: Survivorman/Man vs. Wild.

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    I Also Like Them Both...they Both Teach Different Things. Actually, Watching These Shows Is What Really Got Me More Interested In Finding Out More About Survival Type Info.


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    Before watching man vs wild, if i was ever stranded on a mountain or something i would have no idea at all of what i should do. even though the show is partially staged, if you guys didnt know anything about survival before watching these shows like me, you would realize that they are pretty helpful

    even small things like getting to the top of a mountain to survey the land or following a river seem like simple things, but I dont think i would have thought of them in a survival situation. his show also does teach good techniques for setting traps and such which i didnt know before

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    I liked "Man vs. Wild" a lot until I realized it was totally fake.

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    It is good that the two shows have encouraged some folk to learn about survival. However. There are to many time on those programs where the techniques they use could kill you as apposed to saving you. Don't forget Bear is an accomplished mountaineer/climber. Trying to do some of his stunts without his skill is worse then a bad idea. For example, venturing into a glacial ice cave, climbing a waterfall or as Les did placing his camp on a river sandbar when its raining in the mountains above him. I would suggest viewing the programs as entertainment only and investing in some real world practical survival training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    It is good that the two shows have encouraged some folk to learn about survival. However. There are to many time on those programs where the techniques they use could kill you as apposed to saving you. Don't forget Bear is an accomplished mountaineer/climber. Trying to do some of his stunts without his skill is worse then a bad idea. For example, venturing into a glacial ice cave, climbing a waterfall or as Les did placing his camp on a river sandbar when its raining in the mountains above him. I would suggest viewing the programs as entertainment only and investing in some real world practical survival training.
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    Well said klkak,if only people will listen.
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    klkak, Good post. I would also add, not only is Bear an accomplished mountaineer/climber, but he was in the British Special Forces (for 3 years), he's in outstanding physical condition, and passed the training tests for the French Foreign Legion (which is a great accomplishment). BUT the show is dangerous!
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    Those shows are dangerous but remember that they have teams of personel ready to respond to thier emergencies, so much for the "I'm realy surviving thing". Bear says clearly "I'm not staying here tonite but if you had to this is what you could do..."
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    A better show is " The Grizzly man diaries".
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    Timothy Treadwell was a "MORON Echo-terrorist" that not only got himself killed but also his girlfriend. The bear that killed him should get a "Congressional Medal of Honor" and promoted to "Director of Homeland Defense"!!!
    1. If it's in your kit and you don't know how to use it....It's useless.
    2. If you can't reach your kit when you need it....Its useless.

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    Don't sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel.
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    Pardon my naivete ladies and gentlemen, but I've read references to this Timothy Treadwell person a time or two here and I really don't know anything about him. At the risk of having Kevin zero me out with his .338 all the way from Alaska, could someone fill me in a bit on the details of this guy?

    and Crash, what are you even doing still here? Shouldn't you be marking down the hours til doomsday? There's still like...seven hours left in the day where I live, eight where Bragg lives!
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    Can only tell you what I've read about him. Born in New York, actor, self described eco warrior. He and his girlfriend were killed when he set up camp next to a salmon run late in the season. Bears were fighting each other over there "fishing hole"........guess they saw the two furless ones as easier prey.

    If you google his name there are some sites with pics of the scene of the attack - pretty gruesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Don't sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel.
    I had to sugar coat it or I might have damaged some young impressionable minds.
    1. If it's in your kit and you don't know how to use it....It's useless.
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    Bears always Bite bigger than they bark! put sugar on your foot and they will knaw on it pretty good.
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    On a lighter note.....(I know it's been posted before, but I like it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by trax View Post
    Pardon my naiveté ladies and gentlemen, but I've read references to this Timothy Treadwell person a time or two here and I really don't know anything about him. At the risk of having Kevin zero me out with his .338 all the way from Alaska, could someone fill me in a bit on the details of this guy?
    He was a Greenie Weenie that thought he could commune with Alaska's coastal brown bears. The bears ended up using him and his girlfriend as communion.

    By the way you can relax. I wouldn't draw a bead on someone I like. That's just plain bad manners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    Timothy Treadwell was a "MORON Echo-terrorist" that not only got himself killed but also his girlfriend. The bear that killed him should get a "Congressional Medal of Honor" and promoted to "Director of Homeland Defense"!!!
    Timothy Treadwell, Christopher McCandless, Brad & Adrian...these are names that will go into the nominee envelopes for the Darwin Award.

    I saw the movie documentary: "Grizzly man!" Sheesh! What a NUMPTY!!! "Here Fluffy! Here boy! come here fluffy! See! Daddy's got a nice fish for.....AGHHHHHH!!!!!" Freakin' film should have been called "Grizzly Lunch"!

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    Bears - never encountered one in the wild. Hope to keep it that way.
    The bear equation:

    A small bear can outweigh a grown man by 2 : 1
    + Large bear 3 : 1
    + Bears have bigger sharper teeth, stronger jaws and 4 sets of claws.
    + Bears are faster than me
    - I carry a knife.
    = Bear wins.

    only variable is if I can keep my wits about me enough to not become food.

    For those of you that have spent a lot of time in bear country - any threads here you'd recommend or should I trust Baer Grylls?
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    Dennis - here's a thread dealing with bears that you may find useful. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ght=bear+spray
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