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    That's probably not going to happen since he hasn't logged on in 4 years.
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    Bowguy...

    Great information. I used to be quality control for an adhesive manufacturer. A little bee's wax will minimize cracking over time. Depending on the purpose of the pine pitch adhesive, different fillers can be used. Here is a link for brewers pitch. It describes fillers for different purposes. It is very similar to what Bowguy describes. The pressure sensitive hotmelt adhesives I worked with were made from resins for sticky adhesion stickiness and waxes with plastic modifiers for pliability. The more wax you add it becomes more pliable. The drawback is the wax reduces its melt point and the aggressive ness of the adhesion. I don't have ratios to recommend but remember you can always add more wax, removing it once mixed in is not an option lol. THere are quite a few articles.

    Sounds like Bow guy has some good experince.

    Decent link with images.
    http://www.primitiveways.com/pine_pitch_stick.html
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    I didn't see montanadolphin's post so ignore my previous.

    In regard to fish glues or other hyde or bone glue. Basically the glue is a collagen protein based adhesive. The skin and bones are boiled to remove the soluble collagen and proteins. Fish glue is an ancient water proof adhesive. I did some searching to find a link that was user friendly (Old School). Modern industry processes have a tendency to be caustic.

    E how Fish glue, not bad article though the second sentence in #4 is unnecessary and only confuses things.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_4793957_glue-fish-scales.html

    Even better.

    http://autonopedia.org/crafts_and_te...Fish_Glue.html

    all hide adhesives have a tendency to spoil. The hyde glue I worked with used formaldehyde as a preservative.

    Hydrogen Peroxide will do a good job of extending the storage life of hyde glues with little to no effect on the adhesive. The closest practical measure I can calculate is .75 teaspoon or 3.7 ml. to one quart, a full teaspoon should work. The scale down from 1 gal didn't round out nice. The addition of hydrogen peroxide should be done after the adhesive is boiled down to a medium syrup consistency and cooled. If its too thick after its cooled you can thin it with distilled water. The viscosity is entirely dependent on the intended use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    That's probably not going to happen since he hasn't logged on in 4 years.
    Well I can hope...lol. Anyone else willing to chime in on how to make it, feel free . I googled it and cannot find any good information on how to make it. I see it used a lot on forums, along with hide glue, pitch glue, etc...but tutorials on how to make it seem to be non-existent.

    Edit: Thanks Karl. I posted without seeing your post.

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    lol my frinf just made me join unwillingly no effince how do i unsuscride

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    Edukation is a wunderfil thing. I'm pretty confident that Australian schools do far better than the example above demonstrates.
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    I read the deleted message, but I couldn't help myself.
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    Yeah. I decided I came off too harsh on a newby so I deleted. (shrug).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Yeah. I decided a came off too harsh on a newby so I deleted. (shrug).
    Makes me wonder what else you lost in that canoe accident.

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    *Bump* Is this thread still active? Well. If it is, I just wanted to ask a few things. It's for my research paper.

    Hmm. since you guys are talking about glues, I wanted to ask what the most feasible natural glue to use?
    In which I'll have easier access to and it can be produced in bulk?

    And also, one that can be used as wound dressing (for medical glue actually).

    I don't know if this is the right place to ask but you guys seem really experienced about everyday stuff so yeah. Please help me out. xD

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    You can make a water resistant glue by mashing up dandelion stems with a rock or a stick. It is not that strong but was able to glue many leaves together when I was testing it out. It takes a while to dry, so I recommend leaving it a well-covered area for at least two hours or so. Keep it completely dry while drying though, or else it will fall off. I had made a staff for my friend using it and it rained very badly that night and glue had came off because it had not finished drying, so remember to keep it dry while the glue is wet.

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    Hunter63 saying Hey and Welcome.
    There is an intro section at:
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    Have not heard of dandelion glue......and why glue leaves together?
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