Congress Approved Health Care Bill

[BENESSE]

Pffft! Silly girl.......it takes three lefts. LOL

That's just what my old man told me.
I guess this from guys who are not afraid to ask for directions.

[2dumb2kwit]

The details is that things don't become magically cheaper just because you ship them across the world and then back. I'd be real curious to know why this unregulated pill that just got shipped back to me from a country with much, much looser standards is all of a sudden such a bargain.

Do you not know that the same products get sold in different countries for different prices? It's called selling for what the market will bear...bare...dang it, you know what I mean. LOL

[2dumb2kwit]

That's just what my old man told me.
I guess this from guys who are not afraid to ask for directions.

I race cars, on dirt ovals....turning left. LOL

[LostOutrider]

Do you not know that the same products get sold in different countries for different prices? It's called selling for what the market will bear...bare...dang it, you know what I mean. LOL

Plus double-cost of shipping it back and forth. Not that anyone would ever take Grandpa's heart meds, cut 'em with something that doubles the volume, and then sell 'em back repackaged. Pfeh. Regulation is for the sheep.

[Rick]

Just out of curiosity, why is a nationwide network of electronic health records a bad thing? I have an anecdote, which isn't significant data of course, but where the reliance on paper records nearly cost my oldest his life. Had they been electronic, then it would have saved some very precious hours.

It's a fabulous idea. But we don't need just one company to do the job. And we sure don't need the government trying to do it. They've been working on a nationwide network of intelligence systems that has never come to fruition and the prototype that the FBI is using will have to be discarded. So......

We can standardize on a language and let free commerce build it. One hospital might score a deal with Sony the next one with HP. As long as they can all talk to each other there won't be an issue. But these guys are lobbying for their own deal.

To the drugs...The pharmaceutical companies might sell you an antibiotic for $12. That same pill might be exported to the Sudan for .20 cents and could be re-imported for $1.00. I'm making the numbers up because I don't know what they are but you see my point. As 2D said the price varies country to country based on what the population can afford to pay. Well, heeeey!

[BENESSE]

Uhmmmm no!

The right to Public Healthcare is on par with the right to Public Education IMO.
At least people can home-school whereas they can't perform surgery at home even if they wanted to.

What am I missing?

[Rick]

I did that last year on a neighbor. I'm still looking for my pocket knife.

[2dumb2kwit]

That's just what my old man told me.
I guess this from guys who are not afraid to ask for directions.

I race cars, on dirt ovals....turning left. LOL

...and yes, sometimes you have to turn right, to go left. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y8-0XHWA2I

[Ken]

Just out of curiosity, why is a nationwide network of electronic health records a bad thing?

Because I, for one, want my records kept private and on a strictly need to know (FOR MY BENEFIT) basis only.

[2dumb2kwit]

The right to Public Healthcare is on par with the right to Public Education IMO.
At least people can home-school whereas they can't perform surgery at home even if they wanted to.

What am I missing?

The federal gov't has no business in education. It's a state issue. LOL

[Rick]

Not me, brother. Chip in the forehead. Scan me and can me.

[LostOutrider]

Because I, for one, want my records kept private and on a strictly need to know (FOR MY BENEFIT) basis only.

So . . . what does that have to do with having an electronic database? This isn't like they're going to put your colonoscopy on youtube.

[BENESSE]

...and yes, sometimes you have to turn right, to go left. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y8-0XHWA2I

Now I'm relieved that you know the diff..
At least you're not saying right and the other right.

[2dumb2kwit]

The right to Public Healthcare is on par with the right to Public Education IMO.
At least people can home-school whereas they can't perform surgery at home even if they wanted to.

What am I missing?

BTW...did you know that in the beginning, the govt was worried about people being too educated? They wanted to educate people just enough that they would be better workers, in the "new" industrial age. They were afraid that if they educated people too much, they wouldn't want to work in the factories.

[crashdive123]

The right to Public Healthcare is on par with the right to Public Education IMO.
At least people can home-school whereas they can't perform surgery at home even if they wanted to.

What am I missing?

Because you have a choice. You have a choice to move to a school district of your choosing (happens all the time). You have the choice to send your children to private school. You have the choice to home school. I don't believe it is analogous because with the new law, your choices are gone. Also, looking at public education - there are some great schools and great teachers, many of which are unsung heroes. Sadly, as in any industry, there are bad ones too. Unfortunately, it has been proven difficult with the government run system to get rid of the bad ones. No necessarily impossible, but difficult. How would that work with a government run health care system? Additionally - when a school system is failing - what is the answer we usually see? Throw more mone at it. I haven't looked at the numbers for a while, but some of the worst performing school districts in the country are spending the highest dollar amount per student. Those are a few things that come to mind.

[2dumb2kwit]

So . . . what does that have to do with having an electronic database? This isn't like they're going to put your colonoscopy on youtube.

Are you sure? They are computers....with people using them...and there are hackers out there.

[2dumb2kwit]

Are you sure? They are computers....with people using them...and there are hackers out there.

Oh, oh, oh...and evil corps., (companies, not zombies.) that want you information!

[LostOutrider]

Same could be said about your IRS records, couldn't it? I mean, if you paid your taxes and such this year. What about your bank account information? The RFID chip in your passport?

[Ken]

So . . . what does that have to do with having an electronic database? This isn't like they're going to put your colonoscopy on youtube.

Okay, let me rephrase my post. "My health records ain't nobody's F'n business except me and my Doc's." That better?

[BENESSE]

Are you sure? They are computers....with people using them...and there are hackers out there.

Just like with on line banking, shopping with cred. cards, filing taxes electronically, etc., etc.
Welcome to the 21st century, bud.