Safety Bullet

**Sarge47** · 01-26-2010, 07:37 PM

That's all well and good, however I was able to sneak my dad's revolver out of his storage box, remove the bullets, & scare the crap out of my kid brother at the age of 8! I would have noticed the weird looking round in a heartbeat!

But leave it on the market for the Numpties, they need all of the help they can get!

**hunter63** · 01-26-2010, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Boker

These have great practical joke potential. Not so sure about their designated purpose though.

Sorry, not even remotely funny.

**flandersander** · 01-26-2010, 09:31 PM

What I don't understand, is why doesn't somebody just use an empty cartridge? I can't watch the video, so i don't know exactly how it works, but wouldn't just the brass take on the same concept?

**Boker** · 01-26-2010, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by hunter63

Sorry, not even remotely funny.

Would it make you feel any better if I promised we'll all be drunk at the time?

j/k!

**Ole WV Coot** · 01-27-2010, 12:05 AM

Gotta be right up on the list of stupid inventions to protect idiots. I learned to depend on common sense and taught my son as he has taught his boys the same way. He also carries a 1911 45 so I guess I did something right.

**AKS** · 01-27-2010, 12:16 AM

seems like it might be fun to help a budy load a mag. while out shooting and put one as #3 or 4 down the line.

bang
bang
bang
click, what the....Hey! What's wrong with my pistol!!!!

**Ole WV Coot** · 01-27-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by AKS

seems like it might be fun to help a budy load a mag. while out shooting and put one as #3 or 4 down the line.

bang
bang
bang
click, what the....Hey! What's wrong with my pistol!!!!

That ain't for fun. I taught folks with revolvers on aimed fire by a couple of blanks, spin the cylinder and watch for trigger jerk or flinch which will show up on the dead primer. Actually you can learn a lot about yourself by doing the same thing. A couple of fired brass, spaced, spin the cylinder and align your sights and slow fire at a target. When you hit a dead one check your sights and see where you are aiming. Bet you flinch, pull off target or screw up. Darn good practice.

**flandersander** · 01-27-2010, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by AKS

seems like it might be fun to help a budy load a mag. while out shooting and put one as #3 or 4 down the line.

bang
bang
bang
click, what the....Hey! What's wrong with my pistol!!!!

Here man, I loaded your mag for you.
200 class buck walks in
Bang!
Dang i missed 'im
I got 'im this time!
Click!
what the....

**Boker** · 01-27-2010, 08:24 PM

I got a feeling if we ever get together, some of us ain't gonna be allowed to have firearms.

**AKS** · 01-28-2010, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot

That ain't for fun. I taught folks with revolvers on aimed fire by a couple of blanks, spin the cylinder and watch for trigger jerk or flinch which will show up on the dead primer. Actually you can learn a lot about yourself by doing the same thing. A couple of fired brass, spaced, spin the cylinder and align your sights and slow fire at a target. When you hit a dead one check your sights and see where you are aiming. Bet you flinch, pull off target or screw up. Darn good practice.

Were you able to watch the videos? When you fire one of these "safety bullets" it completely jams up your pistol. I agree that pulling the trigger while pointing at a target with a good back drop just like you were really going to fire is good practice for trigger control but I wouldn't want to do it with one of these in the chamber. You have to put a rod in your barrel and bang it on a hard surface to get it to release so you can cycle the weapon and try again. I try to make it a practice not to swing my firearms at hard objects.

**Born2Late** · 01-28-2010, 06:21 AM

The first thing I was taught is that every weapon is loaded until you have checked for yourself that it is safe,dont let your gun out of your sight and keep it away from children,it is not a toy.I still think that the best safety is between your ears.Think of what you are doing at all times and get good training.When I want to use the firearm there wont be time to take out the safety bullet,that second could cost you your life.

**Ole WV Coot** · 01-28-2010, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by AKS

Were you able to watch the videos? When you fire one of these "safety bullets" it completely jams up your pistol. I agree that pulling the trigger while pointing at a target with a good back drop just like you were really going to fire is good practice for trigger control but I wouldn't want to do it with one of these in the chamber. You have to put a rod in your barrel and bang it on a hard surface to get it to release so you can cycle the weapon and try again. I try to make it a practice not to swing my firearms at hard objects.

I said what I thought about the "safety" cartridge in a previous post. What I was talking about was a fired cartridge sans bullet or powder leaving the dead primer to save damage on the firing pin. I wouldn't put a "safety" cartridge in a tin can let alone a firearm. And in a revolver as I used as an example, no harm, no problem, no damage.

**canid** · 03-12-2010, 06:50 AM

i would only criticize the merit of it's effectiveness for the purpose of child safety.

as a child, even a young one, i can say it would only have taken me one observation of a parent using the device to have figured out how to remove it.

there are only two highly effective means of keeping firearms safe from minors:

1.) probably the least effective of the two is to use a key lock device which locks the action from being worked completely, or a safe and ensure the device is locked at all times the firearm isn't in your immediate posession and the key is on your person at all times.

2.) to educate your children about what firearms are, how they work, how they are safely handled and if they express continued curiosity or attraction to firearms, to allow them supervised exposure sufficient to temper any desire for unsupervised handling or use.

**LowKey** · 03-12-2010, 08:10 PM

When I took my pistol course, the instructors put dummy rounds (not these safety rounds) in the magazine to make darn sure we knew what to do with squibs and hangfires.

Get a hammer to ram back the pin? I don't think so.

**hunter63** · 03-13-2010, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by canid

i would only criticize the merit of it's effectiveness for the purpose of child safety.

as a child, even a young one, i can say it would only have taken me one observation of a parent using the device to have figured out how to remove it.

there are only two highly effective means of keeping firearms safe from minors:

1.) probably the least effective of the two is to use a key lock device which locks the action from being worked completely, or a safe and ensure the device is locked at all times the firearm isn't in your immediate posession and the key is on your person at all times.

2.) to educate your children about what firearms are, how they work, how they are safely handled and if they express continued curiosity or attraction to firearms, to allow them supervised exposure sufficient to temper any desire for unsupervised handling or use.

Agreed and would like to add:
3) Teach them to shoot safety, shoot well, and what reasons this tool is to be used.