Global Warming

[bladefrenzy]

I believe in global warming, but am not an alarmist. Common sense shows how we are contributing to the problem, over population, over development of lands, trees being cut down by the acre , rain forests are just a bit of what was here decades ago. I'm not saying it'll be like "The Day After Tomorrow" or anything, just saying we are helping to speed things up a bit.

I think we as Outdoors men and women should be concerned with this, to some degree, as it's the places we like to "play" that are gonna be gone later for future generations. Shouldn't we do something to help preserve it for them?

If we can help our climate to kinda level off by reducing pollution problems a bit what could hurt?

I agree with Rick about feeding the hungry, I also think we should start with our own. The foreign aid, but ours first.

I think our Gov. needs a total overhaul in these area, but that's definitely another topic altogether .

[Sarge47]

A reminder that discussinon of politics is Verbotten here!

[bladefrenzy]

Ya, that's why I said it's another discussion altogether.

[Sarge47]

Look at all the responses you got to your thread here. Do you want to know anything about survival?

[Cori]

Look at all the responses you got to your thread here. Do you want to know anything about survival?

Yeah, I didn't think people really cared about Global Warming. Guess I was wrong
Anyway, I think I know a lot about survival though I could learn more. I have been reading some of the threads here, and also been taking that quiz every once in a while. I would live, but not very well.

[Sarge47]

Let us know if we can help you to get better, Ok?

[granite]

A clue on what?All I meant by that was bigger cities are unhealthy to live in because of pollution.Over the summer I went to New York, and it is very different form my hometown here in Wisconsin.

So, Cori, you think you are all safe and sound from global warming and pollution because you sit in Wisconsin?

Um, don't get too comfortable. You see there is this thing called air currents and what is happening to the west of you affects, well, you. It turns out the Chinese enjoy breeding goats for cashmere sweaters, sweaters that are ultimately sold in the US but that is besides the point. You might think what the Chinese are doing on their own grasslands is their business. You would be wrong. The hind feet of the goats kick up a lot of dust. The more grass the goats eat the less dirt sticks to the ground. Those silly goats kick up a lot of dust, so much so that the air quality in American cities along the west coast is filled with goat-kicking Chinese dust. Also, the air quality coming over the pacific ocean, right over Wisconsin is fowled by the Chinese coal burning power plants.

Perhaps you ought to take a gander into the forests of Idaho and Utah. You might notice lots of dead and dying pine trees. Those trees aren't dying from bad local air quality, they are dying because of air pollution generated in California, Washington State, Oregon and points beyond. The air tends to move and pollute. And your own wonderful state of Wisconsin is probably fowling the streams and rivers with animal waste from those lovely cheese-producing cows, has anyone check the nitrogen levels recently?

You can call it global warming, pollution, stench, whatever. Your hometown is really no different from New York, it is happening everywhere.

[Sarge47]

1st we get Chinese Spambots! Now we get Chinese goats messing up our air and their crummy steel for our knives...what's next?

[Rick]

See, it works like this. First, our cows belch up a sky full of methane. That crosses the Atlantic and settles in Europe where it warms the air causing increased crop production, Sadly, sulphur and nitrogen used in crop production becomes air borne and settles in China, which increases the growth rate of grasses used by feeding goats. The dust they kick up settles in the US where it lands on farms that can now grow more corn and raise more cattle and the process repeats itself. It's call Rick's World of Global Agro-economy. I expect to win a Nobel any time for it.

[granite]

Rick, there is a problem with your theory. Warming the air causes drought. Go back to the drawing board.

[Sarge47]

Rick, there is a problem with your theory. Warming the air causes drought. Go back to the drawing board.

Chalk up another one for Granite!

[Rick]

Pssst. Come here. (whispers) I let her win but don't tell her.

[Sarge47]

Pssst. Come here. (whispers) I let her win but don't tell her.

Ok, Rick, we beleive you, honest we do, ain't that right guys? (snicker)

[nell67]

You really want us to lie here dontcha Sarge???


Sure I believe ya Rick,just like I believe in good ol' Santa Clause..........

p.s. never believe anyone who says believe me,because believe has a lie right in the middle of it.

[Sarge47]

Sorta like the word : "assume", huh?

[nell67]

yes sir.

[Cori]

So, Cori, you think you are all safe and sound from global warming and pollution because you sit in Wisconsin?

Um, don't get too comfortable. You see there is this thing called air currents and what is happening to the west of you affects, well, you. It turns out the Chinese enjoy breeding goats for cashmere sweaters, sweaters that are ultimately sold in the US but that is besides the point. You might think what the Chinese are doing on their own grasslands is their business. You would be wrong. The hind feet of the goats kick up a lot of dust. The more grass the goats eat the less dirt sticks to the ground. Those silly goats kick up a lot of dust, so much so that the air quality in American cities along the west coast is filled with goat-kicking Chinese dust. Also, the air quality coming over the pacific ocean, right over Wisconsin is fowled by the Chinese coal burning power plants.

Perhaps you ought to take a gander into the forests of Idaho and Utah. You might notice lots of dead and dying pine trees. Those trees aren't dying from bad local air quality, they are dying because of air pollution generated in California, Washington State, Oregon and points beyond. The air tends to move and pollute. And your own wonderful state of Wisconsin is probably fowling the streams and rivers with animal waste from those lovely cheese-producing cows, has anyone check the nitrogen levels recently?

You can call it global warming, pollution, stench, whatever. Your hometown is really no different from New York, it is happening everywhere.

Well,EXCUSE me but really, that is not what I meant at all. I meant that my TOWN not STATE but TOWN is very different from New York City. When i went, there was piles of garbage all over, and here there isn't. I am not used to huge cities. And I never said that I was safe and sound from Global Warming and Pollution.So please try to get your facts straight before you assume anything. All I was trying to say is that cities that are bigger usually are more polluted. I know all towns have pollution, I am not an idiot.

[Sarge47]

I am not an idiot.

You're not an idiot, Cori, but you ARE a survivor!

[Elkchsr]

Look on the bright side (as I often try to do no matter the situation)

One of the great things if the extremes of global warming were true...

We will all get to practice our craft in another type of environment with out having to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to get there...

Pretty cool if you ask me...

[Rick]

Cori - Your assessment that larger cities are more polluted is correct. It's called the Urban Heat Island Effect. In short, the air doesn't move as much in a city, trapping both the heat and the pollutants within the perimeter of the buildings. If you are interested in learning more, here is a wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island