two of the best dogs i have ever owned have been poodle mixes, excellent outdoor dogs, but not much for carrying anything useful for that i would perosnally go with the akita, especiaaly for the north
two of the best dogs i have ever owned have been poodle mixes, excellent outdoor dogs, but not much for carrying anything useful for that i would perosnally go with the akita, especiaaly for the north
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lol no. some day. but not yet. but they live around 15 years and by that time...Originally Posted by wareagle69
Great thread!
A couple of replies...WW...I agree with your statements about Huskies, in general if one runs off in pursuit of something, good luck on getting it to come back! They run and run and come back when tired and hungry. Thats not always the case with all of them, but it is fairly common enough to make a general breed statement.
Like equs said, I vote Karelian Bear Dog. they can pull a sled, they hunt well, they are very protective and they get locked in on being the protector of kids, in my eyes they are a great northern wilderness dog.
Next, look into a Mountain Curr, "Old Yeller" was a mountain curr and they are known to be one of the best homestead style dogs of all time
Also, a standard poodle is a pretty all around fine dog, they hunt, a few have run the Iditarod, they are loyal and they are tough!....once you get over the fact you own a poodle- their awesome dogs I am told.
The way of the canoe is the way of the wilderness and of a freedom almost forgotten- Sigurd Olson
Give me winter, give me dogs... you can keep the rest- Knud Rasmussen
My world's best dog is yellow, does he qualify as a Mountain Curr? He has a built in GPS and leads me back home on command from anywhere in the bush, is incredibly brave, very sweet-natured with other dogs and people unless he thinks somebody wants to do me harm, and an excellent bear dog.
He's just a northern mutt from the local First Nation reserve and the best dog I'll ever have. But he's 16 now and this will probably be our last winter, from the looks of it.
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My malamute covers everything you want, but hunting. Basically does what WW and Jason said that huskies do. Although, she has surprised me and not run off for long periods. But then again, she hasn't been off leash when she saw a deer.
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the mountain curr may have to short of fur. the bar dog looks ok but id need to know mor about it hunting style. from what ive seen they dont look like silent hunters. but maybe i should investigate a bit more. i dont want the dog to take the animal down. mostly it would be silently tracking over long distances. and i dont want it to attack a bear im not hunting. would a bear dog be to zealous?
thats an awesome dog WW. hes beautiful. i think thats really cool that he takes you back home when you ask. im sorry though about him being old. thats hard. i know what thats like.
Thanks, Owl Girl :-)
I used to tell the dogs "okay, let's go back" on a walk at the time we turned around when we'd go back the same way we had come. So over time, they came to understand "let's go back" means we're going home or to camp or wherever we started from. But out of our four dogs, only Blizzard, the oldie, has the leadership qualities to actually lead us back on command. All the others get sidetracked by fresh scents all the time or need reassurance they're going the right way. Actually, Blizzard never leads home the way we came, he goes the shortest route back, even in completely strange surroundigs. No idea how he does it.
But it's a worthwhle command to tech the dogs, I think.
Our "neighbour" here has a Karelian bear dog but it's an annoyig barker and moose chaser. I don't know if that's typical of the breed or just of that particular dog.
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Jason: That is amazing: Also, a standard poodle is a pretty all around fine dog, they hunt, a few have run the Iditarod, they are loyal and they are tough!....once you get over the fact you own a poodle- their awesome dogs I am told.
THat is something I never would have believed or though possible. I knew if I was not careful, I would learn stuff on this forumThanks
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Last edited by DOGMAN; 09-16-2009 at 01:44 PM.
The way of the canoe is the way of the wilderness and of a freedom almost forgotten- Sigurd Olson
Give me winter, give me dogs... you can keep the rest- Knud Rasmussen
thats pretty cool i didnt know they were good at pulling. do you think they make good guard dogs? how do you think they react to bears? maybe if i could finde a poodle bear dog mix or elkhound poodle mix. id have to be pretty lucky to find such a mix though.
Last edited by owl_girl; 09-17-2009 at 02:07 PM.
My Std. Poodle lives outside under the cabin at -25* Below, he will attack anything he thinks is going to hurt me. This spring when there was a three year old Grizzly at the cabin at the cabin, I wanted to see how he would handle it.
We dog, bear, me were all with in 10' to 15' for about three minutes, I would scoot the bear over to the dog, and tell the dog to sit, and he sat. He did not want too, but he sat. The was much more interested in the turkeys & Geese. What I should have done was turned the geese loose, to see what would happen. But I know what would have happened.
That's really cool, SD! Have you heard how any of your Labradoodles have turned out?
Owl Girl, you could also consider a different poodle mix.
We have a Standard Poodle-White Shepherd mix who is really great. I thought the poodle temperament might mellow and sweeten the shepherd disposition, and he might be a good herding/livestock dog.
I know three other people who also took pups from that litter and everybody is totally impressed with them - eager to please, bark when somebody comes but are quiet otherwise, excellent with livestock, great mousers (!), good with people, okay with other dogs. Some of them are kept as outside dogs. Mine also pulls (reluctantly though, so he's not one for skijoring but he'll pull gear) and tracks game, quietly until he sees it, then he barks.
All of them are quite sensitive though, poodles don't do well with a harsh hand. They don't need it either, a quietly and gently said command, and they'll be happy to obey most of the time.
So maybe you could look around and see what else might be a good breed breed combination for your needs in terms of poodle mixes, apart from elkhound.
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Owners are all happy. One thing that I was not prepared for is the wide range in their appearance as they got older. Some have straight hair, some curly hair. Man they ended up with huge feet, should be good swimmers, with built in snowshoes.
its is very debateable how good they are at pulling. They can be taught to pull- and will do it. But, then again you can drive a nail with a screwdriver if you have enough time....
None, have ever finished the iditarod (but they have gone over half way before) and in fact there is a really interesting story about poodles in that race. There was a guy John Sutter who had a team of them, and one year at a check-point a reporter took a picture of his team and they were in bad shape- half frozen, emaciated, de-hydrated and near death, He was kicked-out of the race by Iditarod officals at the same time. However, Sadly, the photos made it to the media, and anti-sled dog racing animal rights groups had a field day with the photos and claiming the iditarod was cruel.
My personal opinion is the conditions of the dogs says more about the guy, then the breed though. Really if you look at it, those dogs were willing to work for their master until they perished. He was an idiot to ask the dogs to do that- but, it says alot for the breed.
The way of the canoe is the way of the wilderness and of a freedom almost forgotten- Sigurd Olson
Give me winter, give me dogs... you can keep the rest- Knud Rasmussen
I have to thank you all for opening my eyes to a breed that I have totally discounted in the past. although in my mind I favor the bull mastiff for my area ( and I know there are a million arguements why it may not be a good choice). The reality is that the Poodle may be more realistic. Thanks again all
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Yeah, I was the same, I thought of them as rather useless, silly looking dogs, especially when they had equally useless and silly owners. But then I became friends with someone who had a Standard Poodle and met some more at a dog park, and that totally changed my mind. I still wish they would look different, though...but as with all relationships, you can't just go by the looks.
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That's funny they are so individual-looking. But then, I just know how three other siblings of my Shepherd-Poodle cross turned out (they all look pretty much the same), maybe the remaining three are more different-looking.
Must have something to do with how strong the lab coat genes are, in your case.
This is what my poodle cross looks like.
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WW: so true but as with all relationships, you can't just go by the looks. or my wife of 32 years would have missed a great catch
And that is a handsome looking dog you have there
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WW, although german shepherds are one of my favorite dog breeds i cant use them cause their backs are to fragile for carrying and if i have a mix i wouldnt know if it inherited that or not so id prefer not to but its not completely written off.
german shepherds are the second smartest breed out of the ones tested. border collie is first but have shorter attention spans, and poodles come in somewhere close after german shepherds.
most shepherds ive known were already pretty sweet.
i need the dog to not bark at pray when they see it. traditionally elkhounds dont bark at pray when they are hunting unless they are off leash and have them cornered and then know to stop barking if the pray escapes and silently track until they have them cornered again. this seems very smart to me so thats why im so impressed with them, they have a very good hunting strategy. i know they have a reputation for being stubborn but im pretty good with stubborn dogs and i have the time for it.
i use to do volunteer dog walking for the humane society and for some of those dogs i was the only one who could walk them. they would do things for me that they wouldnt for any one else. like one dog who most of the people there complained about being stubborn and always pulling them, i was the only one that he would let me go first out of the pen, he would sit and watch my feet waiting for me to have both my feet stepped out of the pen before he would step out. i went slow once to test him, slowly stepping one foot out then the other and he still waited for me. i trained them to all do this for me. it took time for some but i think they all did it.
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