Survival kits info.

[Rick]

To tell you the truth, the 10 essentials list is a bit confusing to me. It seems like every list I see claiming to be the 10 essentials contains different items from the next list. Does anyone know who invented the 10 essentials list?

[Proud American]

Rick Your answer accordin to Wkipedia

The Ten Essentials were first described in the 1930s by The Mountaineers, a hiking and mountain climbing club.

The Web link about it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Essentials

I was curious too as its in my Scout Book.

[Sarge47]

To tell you the truth, the 10 essentials list is a bit confusing to me. It seems like every list I see claiming to be the 10 essentials contains different items from the next list. Does anyone know who invented the 10 essentials list?

REI, a sponsor of this site, gives this input in their "Expert Advice" section:

http://www.rei.com/LearnShareDetailA...ssentialsf.jsp

Wikpedia has been known to have the wrong info at times, so I go right to the source. Basically, the "10 Essentials" kit was just a fore-runner to a survival kit for a backpacker to carry on their belt so in case they lost their pack they would have "back-up" gear.

[Rick]

Well, how 'bout that. Thanks Proud American. I back tracked the wiki article to the group called The Mountaineers. A group started in 1906 and still active! Here is a link to their web site with their ten essentials listed:

http://www.mountaineers.org/scriptco...ert=essentials

Sarge - Thanks. It's the same list as REI has.

[Sarge47]

Well, how 'bout that. Thanks Proud American. I back tracked the wiki article to the group called The Mountaineers. A group started in 1906 and still active! Here is a link to their web site with their ten essentials listed:

http://www.mountaineers.org/scriptco...ert=essentials

Sarge - Thanks. It's the same list as REI has.

The Mountaineers have some very good books on all aspects of Outdoor activities. There books on 1st aid, for example, is tops! As I've mentioned elsewhere, my kid Brother likes to climb mountains so I keep in touch with all the mountain-climbing stuff. POINT: Survival gear has been with us for some time, although not always called by that name. On a "day-hike you might carry either a "10-E" kit or a "Survival" kit, but a Rose by any other name...

[corndog-44]

What do you think every wilderness first aid kit should include?

[Rick]

A nurse but that's just my opinion.

Okay, jeepers.

assorted band aids
steri strips (they tell me these things are illegal in some locations)
gauze pad
anti diarrhea pills
benedryl tablets (allergy)
ibuprofen (or your choice, aspirin, etc.)
Neosporin (antibiotic)
curved suture needle
tweezers
a couple of cough drops

Everything else I can improvise from my pack.

[Tony uk]

A Nurse, I would take a doctor

Anyway.......

Assorted Woven Bandages
Plasters, Range Of Sizes
Antibiotics
Pressure Bandage (For Spraines and so on)
Triangular Bandage
Anti-Septic Cream
Anti-Septic Solutions (Eye wash etc...)
Tweesers
Painkillers
Saftey Pins, Assorted Needles, Intra-venous drip needle
Medical Handbook
Superglue
Forsepts
Scalpel+Spare Blades
Blood Clotting Solution (Thickens blood if poured in would and stops it gushing out)
Iodine (Has other uses but i keep some in my medical kit also)
Flu and other little things like vitamins.....
Alcohol
& a strange one but if im going with a friend i take along a bottle of really strong alcohol like vodka, whisky...... , Numbs the pain alot if you get drunk (Yes there are risks to that but there are times when it comes in handy also)

[MedicineWolf]

Beo, ya should know beter than to talk of a fellow Ranger like that no matter what ya think. Yes he could let his product speak for itself but he was a Ranger, respect is warrented. Shame on ya Beo, ya get a gully whomp when we hook up And RR knows nothing of Beo, my monies on him (my bro Beo) if'n they ever were to meet and RR stepped up to him, but then again I'd stop what might happen, hand them both a beer and we'd talk of the Ranger days and part as Rangers should, with respect and friendship between all.
Sorry for post'n to an old thread.

[Rick]

Dang, Tony. 1. I ain't going hiking with you. 2. I ain't drinkin' with you. Not with that mess of stuff. Lord only knows where pieces parts would be replanted when I sobered up. Toes where my ears were. Nose under my arm. That ain't right.

[Tony uk]

LOL, Thats not what i take with me thats just some stuff you could consider to include, It depends on where im going what i take and if im going with other people, a basic shop bought medi-kit id fine also

[Rick]

Oh, I wasn't worried about what you carried in your kit. I was worried when you said,

Numbs the pain alot if you get drunk

That's that part that scared me.

[Tony uk]

Well it does, if you have ever seen someone reall drunk then you know they become disorintated, thats what makes the sensation of pain dull

[Rick]

Sure. And while I'm all disoriented which one of those tools in that first aid kit gets used first? No, I pass that you.

[Tony uk]

Sure. And while I'm all disoriented which one of those tools in that first aid kit gets used first? No, I pass that you.

Hmmmmm the Scalpel ?

[MedicineWolf]

The kit the Forestry Service issues us goes something like this (made for up to 4 people)
8 ER Food Bars
12 Water Boxes w/ Straws
4 Thermal Blankets
4 Ponchos with hoods
4 Tissue Packs
2 Pair Work Gloves
1 Tube Tent
50 Water Purification Tablets
4 Dusk Masks
2 Pair Vinyn Gloves
1 AM/FM Solar Radio & Flashlight with Generator
1 EMR First Aid Kit
4 12 Hour Lighsticks
1 Can Opener
1 Nylon Cord 50 feet
4 Out-of-state Contact Cards
1 Multi-function Swiss Army Knife (crap but better than nutt'n)
1 Box Waterproof Matches
5 Emergency Candles
12 Sanitation/Toilet Bags
1 Pakage Toilet Chemicals
1 Roll Duct Tape
2 Safety Whistles
1 Can of Bear Mace (yes the stuff works for a minute or two, most bears will run off)
The first aid kit has:
REFERENCES: (1) 72 pg. AMA first aid guide, (1) emergency phone number reference (in case of cell phone)
INSTRUMENTS: (1) scissors, (1) tweezers, (4)vinyl gloves (1) scalpel
INJURY TREATMENT: (1) instant cold compress, (1) triangular bandage, (1)1/2" x 10 yds. roll adhesive tape, (1) 12" x 5" splint wire frame
BANDAGES: (30) adhesive fabric, (1) 2" x 4.5 yd. conforming gauze roll, (3) knuckle fabric, (3) fingertip fabric, (3) 2" x 4" elbow & knee bandage
DRESSINGS: (3) 2" x 3" non-stick pads, (4)2" x 2" gauze pads, (4) 3" x 3" gauze pads, (4) 4" x 4" gauze pads, (2) sterile eye pads
MEDICINE: (20) Ibuprofen tablets (you don't want too much here so you don't dull the senses, gotta stay awake and alert)
ANTISEPTICS: (15) alcohol cleansing pads, (9) antiseptic wipes, (6) iodine infection control wipe, (3) insect sting relief pads, (4) triple antibiotic ointment packs
PACKAGED: 1 Durable Red Nylon Backpack

[Rick]

Do you get a real live donkey to carry it or do the 4 of you just drag it along?

[MedicineWolf]

we work in two man teams, sometimes alone for days on end. It comes in backpack but the donkey would be nice Its for the "Nature Lovers" who hike around and know nothing of the outdoors and then get lost or injured, but its nice to have.

[Rick]

That's a lot of stuff but I'll bet it's pretty compact. There isn't a lot of big stuff in there. That crank radio is probably the biggest. Still, I'll bet you had that trimmed down a bit.

[MedicineWolf]

That's what they issue you, some stuff you toss out, radio included. Up in the deep mountains you pretty much wing it for radio traffic. I threw in a 5" x 5" mirror and 21 square inch blaze orange reflection panel, and go nowhere without my knife, hatchet, and axe (kept in truck unless staying overnight in the woods) and flint and striker.