Are we Survivalist?

**trax** · 12-04-2007, 06:58 PM

Hey Sarge, I never panic....when you find me running around in the bush in circles crying my eyes out and flapping my wrists like a sissy.....thats intentional

**Sarge47** · 12-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Remember this one? The opposite situation?

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...read.php?t=282

Both incidents are taken from J. Wayne Fears' book: "The Complete Book Of Outdoor Survival."

**Sarge47** · 12-04-2007, 08:19 PM

I htink I might have been asking that question in a different way awhile back...

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...read.php?t=276

Hmmmm..........

**Rifleman** · 12-04-2007, 11:57 PM

I'm a self proclaimed jackass hillbilly. Well, not really, but that's kinda a running joke with me, and people usually dont disagree too much.

Survialist is something that is hard to actually define. I don't think that everyone that considers themself one can be lumped into one group.
I think that the "mindset" describes it the best. The different people and situations that can be thought of are endless.

For me during a shtf I wouldnt even think of buggin out. But my situation is different from most. I already live off in the woods more or less.

I could even see a thug that would stay in the city and loot, mug etc, being called a survivalist by some. He is doing something to procure resources for himself to survive. It may be what he knows best, along with being his mindset to survive.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to compare him to us, or praising what he does. I'm just pointing out what could be considered being a survivalist.
Now if you drop him in the middle of the woods, he probably wouldnt last 3 days.

This is a topic that could be covered from so many angles and points of view. That's why I like the mindset the best. Skills for the area you are going to be surviving in are always a help though.

**Smok** · 12-05-2007, 05:41 AM

A friend call me a survivalist once I told him not to ever call me that , as it has a very bad diffusion here , here it is someone a little off , not all there . Well it may be me at that .. But just to use the term can be quite bad so I would prefer not to be so labeled .. I,m just prepared and I do not want anyone to know even that . I keep a very low profile as I fear the Thug and the mob , to me fear like that is just being smart , I also fear my government and that is to bad . But I know that they are not going to be there for me and my even try to take my food " they see it as hording " Bad Smok for taking responsibility for me and mine

**trax** · 12-05-2007, 03:56 PM

Have we met?

**Beo** · 12-05-2007, 04:04 PM

Blah blah blah, a lot of nonsense.
Survivalism is a commonly used term for the subculture or movement of people anticipating and making preparations for a future disruption in local, regional or worldwide social or political order. Survivalists often prepare for this anticipated disruption by learning skills (e.g., emergency medical training), stockpiling food and water, or building structures that will help them to survive (e.g., an underground shelter). The specific preparations made by survivalists depends on the nature of the anticipated disruption, some of the most commonly anticipated being: Natural disasters, such as tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, blizzards, and severe thunderstorms.
A disaster brought about by the activities of mankind: chemical spills, release of radioactive materials, and war.
General collapse of society, resulting from the unavailability of electricity, fuel, food, and water.
Widespread chaos, or some other unexplained apocalyptic event.
See I can blather on to, but what do you call yourself with your skills at this moment?

**Sarge47** · 12-05-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by trax

Have we met?

For a "carpenter" you really know you're psyco-babble, like another guy thatt used to hang here from California...Hmmmm....

**LadyTrapper** · 12-05-2007, 10:52 PM

Survivalist? no...
Outdoorswoman...yes...Some of the things I have observed or learned in nature will aid me in a survival situation no doubt...I have taken alot of information from this site just the short time I have been here. This is a valuable resource.
I go into the wilderness for the soul purpose of spending time in the place I love to be, not to put myself into any survival situation. I feel at home there. I am not niave in thinking that a survival scenerio couldnt happen, so I prepare myself.

**Gray Wolf** · 12-05-2007, 11:46 PM

Survivalist: It is a state of mind, courage, knowledge, leadership abilities, knowing the strength within yourself, and not knowing what the word quit means... JMHO

______________________
"A person is not finished when they are defeated.
A person is finished when they quit."

**Nativedude** · 12-06-2007, 01:10 AM

No matter where you live, you are a survivalist.

Urban/City: Urban dwellers survive from the threat of being attacked, killed, mugged, car-jacked, vehicle accidents, weather, heart attacks, strokes, illness, medical problems, etc.

Sub-Urban: Same as urban/city dwellers.

Rural: Tornadoes, or flooding, or droughts, weather, vehicle accidents, heart attacks, strokes, illness, medical problems, etc. (depending to geographic location.)

Back country/O.T.G.*: Flooding, droughts, weather, animal attacks, self-inflicted injury, illness, medical problems, etc. (depending to geographic location.)

*Where you live in close proximity to others.

The one thing that all of these scenarios has in common, is that all whom live in the listed regions is susceptible to STRESS. Stress from worrying about all of the daily trials and tribulations of society.

You breath to survive
You eat to survive
You work to survive
Etc; etc; etc.

**Gray Wolf** · 12-06-2007, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Nativedude

No matter where you live, you are a survivalist.

Sorry Nativedude, But that is far from reality... I've watched and seen people come apart at the seams in Hurricanes and in extreme Blizzards. Let alone scared to walk their streets at night, or getting their car jacked, or serious medical emergences, etc, etc.

**Nativedude** · 12-06-2007, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Sorry Nativedude, But that is far from reality... I've watched and seen people come apart at the seams in Hurricanes and in extreme Blizzards.

Yes Gray Wolf, I have too. Even though people come apart at the seams during a disaster, to live through a disaster you are a survivor. Living after a disaster, after all is said and done, they ultimately are survivalists. Surviving day-to-day. Many become homeless, living on the streets, eating from dumpsters, taking hand-outs, begging, stealing, pan-handling, etc. They are survivalists.

Every person, who gets up every day, is a survivalist in one form or another!

**Gray Wolf** · 12-06-2007, 01:46 AM

I guess I have a different concept of what a survivalist is and what this site is about. No harm meant Nativedude.

**Nativedude** · 12-06-2007, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

I guess I have a different concept of what a survivalist is and what this site is about. No harm meant Nativedude.

None taken Gray Wolf!

It all good!!

**Rick** · 12-06-2007, 07:50 AM

Saweeeet avatar, Grey Wolf. That picture sure says a lot. What a noble lookin' puppy.

From the American Heritage Dictionary:

n. One who has personal or group survival as a primary goal in the face of difficulty, opposition, and especially the threat of natural catastrophe, nuclear war, or societal collapse.

That would be me. Right now, today. Do I have the mental and physical skill sets to be successful, I hope.

**Two Rivers** · 12-06-2007, 10:50 AM

I believe that a survival situation is only that because of a lack of knowledge and skill. What most would call a survival situation I would call an unscedualed camping trip as I believe most of us in here would. In the event of some unforseen disaster, most of us in here would be alright at least longer than most of the general population, being at most an inconvienience after a certain amount of time. A good working knowledge is all that is needed. A few basic tools, again only for the convienience, not nessessary, as our forfathers and natives knew very well.
Survival is an instinct, the knowledge to stay alive and be content not to have all the gadgets man has invented is what counts. Nature provides all that is needed.