Watching that would have been worth the price of admission.
Watching that would have been worth the price of admission.
I'll echo what everybody else has said. In most states they are legal to own, but not legal to carry... unless you happen to be a police officer. And, as others have said, there are better self defense options out there. I would use a knife for self-defense only as a last resort.Originally Posted by Geronimo!
That said, I rate the best switchblade on the market to be the GT Knives Automatic:
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http://www.famoustrails.com/gtknives/about.html
It is very fast, very well-made, and to a casual observer appears to be a conventional folding knife with a thumb-stud on the blade for opening it. The button that activates the knife is generally mistaken for a manufacturing badge, and not a button. What this means, is that if a bad guy gets the knife away from you while it is closed, he will probably not be able to figure out how to open it for a while.
If you do choose to carry a knife which you intend to deploy quickly, I feel the best option out there right now is the Spyderco Delica 4 with an Emerson hook on it:
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The knife is designed to be carried clipped inside your front pocket, partially visible (not concealed). As you pull the knife from your pocket, the Emerson hook catches the lip of your pocket and opens the knife. In my opinion, this is much faster than even an automatic, and easier to use in high-stress situations because you are not feeling around for a button to press. You pull the knife out, it is immediately open and ready to be used.
It is also small enough to be considered a legal pocket knife in most areas.
This would be my top recommendation as well.
Eat a lot of fish, do you?
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Never bring a knife to gun fight. Concealed Carry is the way to.Providing you are legally able.
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I was jumped and mugged several times while living in Phila. One incident I came across 4 guys wanting to mess with a guy by himself. I let them get their fun in without fighting back(I was drinking and had my paycheck on me). Then one went for my groin and I lost it. The groin guy got a busted nose and I shoved another into the others and decided to run...right into 6 of their friends. I ran around a corner and got one in the face when he came around but when I tried to run again I stupidly tripped on the curb. I put my face between curb and street and took a kicking to. I thought this was it and tried to get back up. They kept kicking me down, telling me thats what I get for fighting back. What pissed me off was that there were people standing in their door watching me get kicked to death. One woman(and the only neighbor I didn't curse at) yelled that she called the cops(who never came) and that got them to run. A few bruises and no broken bones(and still had my pay) I got up and left. I had a knife on me and would probably not be writing this if I pulled it. The only weapon I carried after that was a bic pen. Something to shock and run away. I've beaten down 2 or 3 punks before but that was the worst.
If you carry a backpack, keep a couple of cans of soup in it and swing away then run away. Just my two cents. On a side note the 10 wussies hung on the same corner every weekend
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In Alabama, switchblades are legal to own and carry, but they may not be carried concealed.
I don't know whay you guys are so dead set against the op defending himself. If I was being mugged, yeah, I'd rather have a gun, but anything at all beats nothing. A knife, stick, a rock, whatever. I'm not a big fan of switchblades, so I'd suggest a decent folder. Just showing the knife is enough to deter most attackers. But remember, never pull a weapon unless you are willing, and ready, to use it. And to those of you who suggest running, that's crap. I was raised to defend myself and my posessions. Slicing the fingers off the 1st mugger is apt to make the other 4 hesitate. Unless you're Jessie Owens running away will just make you too tired to fight back when a group of young punks half your age decides to run you down and kick the crap out of you. If I'm going to become a statistic, it ain't gonna be because I relied on the mercy of someone who thinks he deserves my hard earned posessions more than I do. It's gonna be because I died with my knife in his belly.
I'm not sure anyone is dead set against him defending himself. Most just pointed out the legalities of having one. Pulling a knife at the wrong time and/or on the wrong guy might be the fastest way to get killed. I just hope the guy you actually pull a knife on doesn't happen to have a CCW. Otherwise, you might become a statistic for a different reason.....just sayin'.
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Well, if he has a gun, I'd rather have a knife than my bare hands. I'm just sayin'. Besides, if he's mugging me, he probably doesn't have a ccw. He might have a gun, but why would he bother to get a lisence if he's gonna use it to break the law?
And "most" are wrong. It's legal to own in 29 of the 50 states. That's better than half. And it's legal to carry in 18.
I just meant he might have a concealed gun. My choice of verbiage was wrong. Mea culpa. We all stand corrected. Thank you.
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you might be able to do so with a CCWL but according to what I have been able to find ... without a CCWL it can only be a "pocketknife or Hunting knife", if you have a Tactical knife you are going to jail if you don't have a CCWL. without a CCWL if you have a butterfly knife or switchblade.you are looking at a stay at the crossbar Hotel.
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Look, I'm not trying to start a fight. All I'm saying is that responsibly carrying a knife - and using it for self defense if the need arises - is no different than carrying a gun. Both carry great responsibilities. Both can kill. But this crap about having the knife taken from you and used against you is just idiotic. Yea, it could happen. I could also get hit by a meteorite. Reach for my knife, and you'll be missing a few fingers. It just seems to me that some in this thread are suggesting passively standing by and relying on the bad guys mercy instead of acting to defend yourself. A gun trumps a knife, but a knife trumps knuckles and a knife is a lot easier to carry. I personally think switchblades are silly, I'd much rather have a folder which is a tool much more than a weapon, but can still be used in self defense, but if the op wants a switchblade, I say go for it, as long as it's legal in his area.
Last edited by JRR; 07-26-2009 at 05:43 PM.
This page is circa 1998, so laws may have changed since then, but it lists every state and the legality of switchblades. As of 1998, Kentuckians are allowed to carry a switchblade as long as it is not concealed.
http://www.amatecon.com/switchblade.html
Hmmm.....
This is why it's good to read the entire thread before responding. In Post #55 Rick already posted that link.
Here is my defense against an armed mugger/robber/assailant: I take my watch & wallet, throw them at him, then turn & run real hard while screaming like a girl. If I don't have a clear path of retreat then I drop to the ground, grovel, & weep like a little girl. The bad guy laughs so hard he can't quit, thereby giving the cops plenty of time to arrive & bust him!
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Oops. I did read the entire thread, but I didn't click any links, that's why I missed his.
JRR - I don't entirely disagree with you. I think folks that are so inclined should defend themselves by whatever means they have available. A few points about the original post though...
An individual about to attend college with presumably no experience with using a knife for self defense (why would he ask the question if he did?)
The state in which the OP is attending school it is illegal to own a switchblade and to carry one.
Pulling a knife on a mugger may "escalate" the situation. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, but it is something to be mindful of.
Yeah, I get that, that's why I think carrying a knife is a better option than a ccw.. He's much less likely to accidentally kill someone with a knife. Carrying a gun brings with it a HUGE responsibility. A knife, a lesser one.
And yeah, he might piss off someone who already has zero respect for him and escalate the situation. I'm just saying I would never place my eggs in the basket of an individual who thinks its okay to take my stuff by force. I'd rather pull the knife and take my chances - and I only know one thing about knife fighting - the pointy end goes into the bad guy.
Gotta say that I disagree with that 100%. Weapons are tools. You pick the best tool for the task at hand. In the eyes of the law, a deadly weapon is a deadly weapon. If the concern is accidently killing somebody with a handgun, then the person carrying that handgun probably has no carrying it, as they obviously have not recieved the proper training or don't have the temperment for it. In that case, they probably can't be trusted with sharp things either.
I agree 100% that one should have the proper training before carrying a gun. But knives require less training than guns. Let me rephrase that. Using a knife safely requires less training than using a gun safely. You won't get the "oh, it's not loaded" accident with a knife. If you drop a knife, it's not gonna accidentally go off and kill someone. You are very unlikely to accidentally stab someone. You're not likely to mistake a boy scout for a deer, either. Now, none of the above should ever happen with a gun, but the fact is they do. That's why carrying a knife can be a safer alternative than a gun. A knife is a tool and is likely to be used many times a day for mundane tasks. And it's there to use on scum when needed as well. If you get mugged by a guy with a gun, yeah, the knife is the wrong tool for the job. But at least you'd have a tool. And if it's just some guy thinking he can push you around and you'll concede your wallet to him because he outweighs you 30 pounds, a knife can equalize the size disadvantage and teach him a lesson without blowing his head off.
Good luck with that. Hey JRR - how about an Introduction http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14 so we know something about the person giving us advice. Thanks.
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