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    I have heard this sheep, sheepdog, wolf thing in the past and I don't buy it at all. It is a oversimplified silly analogy for the "sheepdogs" to feel some sort of superiority.

    Some of us choose to take the necessary steps to protect ourselves and some do not, period. No need for labels. How's this for oversimplifying?


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    Quote Originally Posted by brizbane View Post
    I have heard this sheep, sheepdog, wolf thing in the past and I don't buy it at all. It is a oversimplified silly analogy for the "sheepdogs" to feel some sort of superiority.

    Some of us choose to take the necessary steps to protect ourselves and some do not, period. No need for labels. How's this for oversimplifying?
    Such a silly little fellow. Apparently the analogy was totally lost on you.
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    Thanks Pal, from one sheepdog to another.
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    Brisbane,
    Have you ever served? Superior!!?? The most humble people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting were veterans. In contrast, the most obnoxious, arrogant turd burglars i have ever met were actors, academics and sports figures....... go figure.
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    Jason,
    first point, the domestic dog is descended from the wolf
    point 2, "Wolf" is a metaphor
    point 3, when man was on the lower end of the food chain, the wolf was higher up and so that fear was passed down through generations. I'm not saying it's logical, it just is!
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    I, sir, am not a "turd burglar". Thank you all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I, sir, am not a "turd burglar". Thank you all the same.
    And nor are you arrogant or obnoxious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal334 View Post
    And nor are you arrogant or obnoxious
    hmmm, we may have material for another poll here......just sayin'
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    My personal opinion of our breakdown.. different..

    Our society make up… The meaning of our groups we live in..

    Sheepeople
    The sheep form the largest part of our society and share most of our world in peaceful blindness.
    Sheep enjoy other sheep as well as pigs in a world full of butterflies and clovers and some colored moons and stars flutter around their heads.. living in a constant state of denial generally incapable of doing violence to another person and largely unaware of the existence of evil. Even though Sheep have the knowledge from our societies past they will rarely have the common sense to prepare for emergencies, physical crisis or an attack from other animals of our society. There lives are full of self-propelled motion to serve the family, friends, employer and the community. Most Sheep live in an upper level standard of living to very high class living conditions with an over abundant flow of cash and extreme depth from the high standard of living vortex they have chosen. Big tires and the dress are mainly tough and the new style accepted sexy look to get attention from other sheep and pigs. Men at times sign up for white color boxing or the local karate class for a few months, and even have a gym membership at the local fitness hang-out where they work on their arms and mainly nothing more.. around town they wear cut off shirt sleeves, ear rings, meaningless tattoos, big powerful looking boots that are mainly not tied or skate shoes that are not tied, their sunglasses at night and at times backwards or on their heads to play ‘cool’ and ‘tough’. Most ride motorcycles and jacked up cars with silly lights and shaded windows as well as beefy type manly autos with all the bells and whistles to reward themselves. Women like very sexy short shorts, tight fitting tops, hair styles that look big and bold to hide their weakness to the men, little or no shoes and almost no clothing. Sheep dress well and in the latest fashion of course because they are ‘cool’ and ‘tough’. The wife or know it all and master of nothing of the sheepeople family is almost always sick and needs the bathroom cabinet full of pills ranging from pills for depression, digestion-intestine pain, head aces, sleep aids, hang over, etc because of her families high priced stressed life style. They also have cell phones on auto dial ready to contact 911 operators and local high priced pig lawyers. The wife demands high priced autos, jewelry, clothing, vacations and a pool to boot.
    Sheepeople always live within the law and rules of their society. They feel this is where they are safe and protected from others. They almost never talk about pragmatic living conditions such as war or hate or hunger and how our world is being destroyed.
    The wife and husband have given up on their children and allow them XBoxes, IPods and computers to entertain themselves. There is no true personal creativity or self-awareness in the sheep’s home. Everyone’s more or less a society drone. The Sheep’s life is never at rest of complacent because they strive on consumer-ism. Sheep enjoy hiring piggypeople to do their dirty work. Sheep like to talk trash about others and bring up their ‘coolness’ and ‘stylish’ to hide their worthless dead lives.
    Sheepeople enjoy clean and well kept environments as long as they don’t have to get their hands dirty.

    Piggypeople
    There are many piggypeople but not as many as sheep. This is a very large group in our society. This wonderful group is the same as the sheep’s life style in almost everyway but has interest as well as exceeds in making money and causing the worlds problems by doing so. Here you find the dirty pigs feeding off the sleep walking sheep’s unawareness of the cruel world they live in. Piggypeople are sociopath who prey upon the sheep and wish to do them harm and take their materialistic goods. They mainly group in gangs like politicians, lawyers, judges, sales piggy people, and so on find being a pig wonderful. Here you can see the piggy players who take advantage of the weak, mindless and unaware sheep. The piggy-men-people love to degrade the sheepwomen as well as the piggywomen and make them feel dirty, useless and stupid. Other words piggypeople like to be with sheepeople to feel powerful and in charge.
    Piggypeople always live on the edge always trying to corrupt or change rules and guidelines to create bedlam.
    They fester in the slop and illness of the society they prey on.

    Sheepdoggypeople
    This group is rare. Sheepdogs use sheepeople and piggypeople in a healthy manner because of their understanding of the sheep and pigs place in society. Sheepdogs understand the purpose they live and act the way they do from their past experience. The sheepeople and piggypeople provide the community for them to survive in and walk among them without fear or harm to their way of life. it seems the sheep and pigs enjoy having the sheepdogs close to protect them and help them keep peace in their blind, lazy and dirty world they have created. These groups in our society live balanced and at peace because they are prepared and ready to kill those who wish them harm. They, the complete family or group are driven by regular training and upgrades on their self-perfection and self-preservation skills to allow them the wholesome future of the family and community. Almost all sheepdoggies carry weaponry at all times, meaning at the gym, movies, out eating, watching sports, travel, walking their pet, etc. No part of the family that has the responsibility to protect the way of life will go any where without a weapon ready and willing to use it if need be. The family has a plan as well as the means to react to aggression and attacks of any kind being natural, animal or human. Sheepdogs are mainly fit and driven to health and physical strength to live out their lives in peace and harmony away from the sheepeople and piggypeople.
    Sheepdogs almost always pick a sheepeople to be their partner. Helping them to manifest a better life style and become sheepdogs. Very few are born a sheepdog. Sheepdogs are mainly sheepeople who have evolved into stronger more self-aware sheep.
    Sheepdogs dislike a lot of things such as.. sloth, lazy opinions, drugs users, drug pushers, drunks, Kings, Queens, dishonest police, politicians, lawyers, judges, sales piggy-people and such but understand their need for these in the scheme of totality. But live within the rules and guidelines of the policy makers they have put into office.
    Sheepdogs enjoy great conversation regarding politics, religion, world crisis, hunger, hate and the future of the community they live in to find ways of solving the challenges and problems that are pragmatic. They are always building a better community and cleaning up after the sheep and pigs mess.


    Wolfpeople
    This is an extremely rare group of people in the world. This group is hated as well as feared by most of the sheepeople and piggypeople. The wolfie preys on the so called tough, cool, dirty and greedy pigs.
    Their need for self-discovery and spirituality is a must to balance out their need for war or the destruction of the hate, greed, and selfishness of the sheepeople or piggypeople.
    Wolfies are self-driven, autodidact, to self-perfection through warrior studies to a point of obsession making it a life long journey. More or less.. Wolfies are skilled and trained to self-perfection as well as self-preservation they live on the edge of madness. They strive on total awareness and properness for war. Their lives have been dedicated to war and the arts of warriorship. Most are teachers of the sheepdogs who seek out the usefulness of the Wolfie warrior saint.
    This wolfie lives as the sheepdogs do but with out any need or care for the piggypeople or sheepeople. Other words they have no tolerance for them and care not to be involved with them in anyway. Weak, stuck on stupid, blind, careless, meaning less lives are of no need for the Wolfie.
    Their life styles are dark and complex in nature. They seek a sword and a rifle for their path but seek full blooded sheepdogs or other wolfies as life partners. Wolfies always live within wolfie packs with experienced and skilled sheepdogs.

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    What brought me back to this thread today was a conversation with a young engineer who had read the unabridged version on my office wall. He was a mere lad when 9/11 occurred and is fresh from college. It was a rewarding conversation (from my perspective), as I talked him through it. He left with a seemingly better understanding of its meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamiyama View Post
    My personal opinion of our breakdown.. different..

    Our society make up… The meaning of our groups we live in..

    Sheepeople
    The sheep form the largest part of our society and share most of our world in peaceful blindness.
    Sheep enjoy other sheep as well as pigs in a world full of butterflies and clovers and some colored moons and stars flutter around their heads.. living in a constant state of denial generally incapable of doing violence to another person and largely unaware of the existence of evil. Even though Sheep have the knowledge from our societies past they will rarely have the common sense to prepare for emergencies, physical crisis or an attack from other animals of our society. There lives are full of self-propelled motion to serve the family, friends, employer and the community. Most Sheep live in an upper level standard of living to very high class living conditions with an over abundant flow of cash and extreme depth from the high standard of living vortex they have chosen. Big tires and the dress are mainly tough and the new style accepted sexy look to get attention from other sheep and pigs. Men at times sign up for white color boxing or the local karate class for a few months, and even have a gym membership at the local fitness hang-out where they work on their arms and mainly nothing more.. around town they wear cut off shirt sleeves, ear rings, meaningless tattoos, big powerful looking boots that are mainly not tied or skate shoes that are not tied, their sunglasses at night and at times backwards or on their heads to play ‘cool’ and ‘tough’. Most ride motorcycles and jacked up cars with silly lights and shaded windows as well as beefy type manly autos with all the bells and whistles to reward themselves. Women like very sexy short shorts, tight fitting tops, hair styles that look big and bold to hide their weakness to the men, little or no shoes and almost no clothing. Sheep dress well and in the latest fashion of course because they are ‘cool’ and ‘tough’. The wife or know it all and master of nothing of the sheepeople family is almost always sick and needs the bathroom cabinet full of pills ranging from pills for depression, digestion-intestine pain, head aces, sleep aids, hang over, etc because of her families high priced stressed life style. They also have cell phones on auto dial ready to contact 911 operators and local high priced pig lawyers. The wife demands high priced autos, jewelry, clothing, vacations and a pool to boot.
    Sheepeople always live within the law and rules of their society. They feel this is where they are safe and protected from others. They almost never talk about pragmatic living conditions such as war or hate or hunger and how our world is being destroyed.
    The wife and husband have given up on their children and allow them XBoxes, IPods and computers to entertain themselves. There is no true personal creativity or self-awareness in the sheep’s home. Everyone’s more or less a society drone. The Sheep’s life is never at rest of complacent because they strive on consumer-ism. Sheep enjoy hiring piggypeople to do their dirty work. Sheep like to talk trash about others and bring up their ‘coolness’ and ‘stylish’ to hide their worthless dead lives.
    Sheepeople enjoy clean and well kept environments as long as they don’t have to get their hands dirty.

    Piggypeople
    There are many piggypeople but not as many as sheep. This is a very large group in our society. This wonderful group is the same as the sheep’s life style in almost everyway but has interest as well as exceeds in making money and causing the worlds problems by doing so. Here you find the dirty pigs feeding off the sleep walking sheep’s unawareness of the cruel world they live in. Piggypeople are sociopath who prey upon the sheep and wish to do them harm and take their materialistic goods. They mainly group in gangs like politicians, lawyers, judges, sales piggy people, and so on find being a pig wonderful. Here you can see the piggy players who take advantage of the weak, mindless and unaware sheep. The piggy-men-people love to degrade the sheepwomen as well as the piggywomen and make them feel dirty, useless and stupid. Other words piggypeople like to be with sheepeople to feel powerful and in charge.
    Piggypeople always live on the edge always trying to corrupt or change rules and guidelines to create bedlam.
    They fester in the slop and illness of the society they prey on.

    Sheepdoggypeople
    This group is rare. Sheepdogs use sheepeople and piggypeople in a healthy manner because of their understanding of the sheep and pigs place in society. Sheepdogs understand the purpose they live and act the way they do from their past experience. The sheepeople and piggypeople provide the community for them to survive in and walk among them without fear or harm to their way of life. it seems the sheep and pigs enjoy having the sheepdogs close to protect them and help them keep peace in their blind, lazy and dirty world they have created. These groups in our society live balanced and at peace because they are prepared and ready to kill those who wish them harm. They, the complete family or group are driven by regular training and upgrades on their self-perfection and self-preservation skills to allow them the wholesome future of the family and community. Almost all sheepdoggies carry weaponry at all times, meaning at the gym, movies, out eating, watching sports, travel, walking their pet, etc. No part of the family that has the responsibility to protect the way of life will go any where without a weapon ready and willing to use it if need be. The family has a plan as well as the means to react to aggression and attacks of any kind being natural, animal or human. Sheepdogs are mainly fit and driven to health and physical strength to live out their lives in peace and harmony away from the sheepeople and piggypeople.
    Sheepdogs almost always pick a sheepeople to be their partner. Helping them to manifest a better life style and become sheepdogs. Very few are born a sheepdog. Sheepdogs are mainly sheepeople who have evolved into stronger more self-aware sheep.
    Sheepdogs dislike a lot of things such as.. sloth, lazy opinions, drugs users, drug pushers, drunks, Kings, Queens, dishonest police, politicians, lawyers, judges, sales piggy-people and such but understand their need for these in the scheme of totality. But live within the rules and guidelines of the policy makers they have put into office.
    Sheepdogs enjoy great conversation regarding politics, religion, world crisis, hunger, hate and the future of the community they live in to find ways of solving the challenges and problems that are pragmatic. They are always building a better community and cleaning up after the sheep and pigs mess.


    Wolfpeople
    This is an extremely rare group of people in the world. This group is hated as well as feared by most of the sheepeople and piggypeople. The wolfie preys on the so called tough, cool, dirty and greedy pigs.
    Their need for self-discovery and spirituality is a must to balance out their need for war or the destruction of the hate, greed, and selfishness of the sheepeople or piggypeople.
    Wolfies are self-driven, autodidact, to self-perfection through warrior studies to a point of obsession making it a life long journey. More or less.. Wolfies are skilled and trained to self-perfection as well as self-preservation they live on the edge of madness. They strive on total awareness and properness for war. Their lives have been dedicated to war and the arts of warriorship. Most are teachers of the sheepdogs who seek out the usefulness of the Wolfie warrior saint.
    This wolfie lives as the sheepdogs do but with out any need or care for the piggypeople or sheepeople. Other words they have no tolerance for them and care not to be involved with them in anyway. Weak, stuck on stupid, blind, careless, meaning less lives are of no need for the Wolfie.
    Their life styles are dark and complex in nature. They seek a sword and a rifle for their path but seek full blooded sheepdogs or other wolfies as life partners. Wolfies always live within wolfie packs with experienced and skilled sheepdogs.

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    Huuh? You certainly put alot of work into that .
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    I'm a professed sheeple. Damned proud of it, too. Where would Wolfpeople be if it weren't for sheeple? I might even be a piggy people. Mostly piggy, that's for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pal
    And nor are you arrogant or obnoxious
    Well, thank you! I thought that was sort of given and I didn't even take offense to that. But the turd burglar thing. huh uh! Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I'm a professed sheeple. Damned proud of it, too. Where would Wolfpeople be if it weren't for sheeple? I might even be a piggy people. Mostly piggy, that's for sure.



    Well, thank you! I thought that was sort of given and I didn't even take offense to that. But the turd burglar thing. huh uh! Nope.

    Hey, trax.
    Wellllll now, I wasn't even going to include turd burglar as an option on the poll, but noww........
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    Pal334 yes you are correct.. put some effort into it..
    But that's what its all about.. effort..

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    Rick, no offense, but I didn't know that you were an actor
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    Oh yeah. Just keep an eye on him - he's always acting out.
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    Academic, kind sir. (that last part was acting)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal334 View Post
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    Again Rick I apologize. you're not one of those Ivory Tower Academics are you?
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    Academic as a pejorative?

    'cause all that book-larnin is bad, I guess. Too much of them thinkin' and next thing you know, we have to hire more sheep dogs to put 'em back in the pen.

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