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    Maybe I'm reading more into her post than I should but if you live in Florida where the water table is pretty shallow and it rains like everyday from 1:12 p.m. to 1:27 p.m. (go ahead, time it) then carrying 15 pounds of water is a needless waste of energy. You wind of having to consume more water to carry water. (taps head) Carry enough for convenience and the ability to make more. Then enjoy the hike. As for packing for a year, I don't know how to do that. I'd like to learn more. If some of the military guys have done like a year patrol I'd like to know how that worked out (I didn't say deployment. I said patrol).
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    Just for you Crash, the introduction is up.

    And to answer everyone who is thinking im an idiot (I dont blame you really) You have to understand where we were hiking. I knew the trail we were taking, and it runs through an 11 mile area of florida pine scrub, that has been recently burned. We had our reasons for choosing it, but it meant that we would not be passing any water sources. We went in close to 5 miles, set up camp, and came back out the same path the next morning. Carrying two quarts and a katadyn would have left me rather thirsty. Ive always been the type to overpack on water anyway. Im glad I did this time, we had several guys run out of water on the hike back out and I was able to share.


    (and the origional question was "how would you pack for a year", I wasnt going to sit here and dispute the rationality of the question as it pertained to me)

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    I don't think you're an idiot. I just asked a couple of questions because the scenario didn't make sense to me. There are other ways of procuring water besides hossin' it. Just sayin...

    As for the "pack for a year"...okay.
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    When I go on a long day hike in the summer I usually have my 3 liter Camelbak plus two one quart canteens with me. I drink a lot of water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    When I go on a long day hike in the summer I usually have my 3 liter Camelbak plus two one quart canteens with me. I drink a lot of water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
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    Sorry Rick, I was grinning when I wrote that....keep forgetting tone doesnt always come across when typing....

    Anyway, we were hiking on some higher, dry sandy areas of florida, Im sure there were other options, but I could carry it, so I did. Another reason is the fact that this was a practice hike, to prepare us for a "just in case" scenario. I dont want to get to a SHTF event and find out I'm out of shape and cant carry a 50 pound pack when I absolutly need to. Several members of our group do a three mile hike every sunday with a full BOB on. Its something I need to start doing too. They often add more water than they need just for the practice of carrying the weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    When I don't, I start to worry. (you look for any excuse to use that don't you?)
    Actually, it's one of my less used smileys. However, it is one of my favorites! And then there's the one Rick edited because he said it burned his eyes.......
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    Deb, Crash has a saying, if it works for you then it works for me. That would be a good response from me at this point.
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    Cool I can pack a M.O.L.L.E. for a year!

    I throw all of my regular stuff into the pack, toss the pack into a fully loaded R.V. & I'm good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    WHAT?! How on earth do you pack a Molle pack for a year's stay? (head slap)
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    Surviving a year with what I can stuff in a backpack? I suppose a few of these would do the trick.

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    730 Twinkies? What am I supposed to do the other 51 weeks in the year?
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    Personally I love keeping it simple.

    I'd love to head back to the Eastern Georgia swamps.

    I'd only need one trip.

    -My hunting knife, with the sharpener included in the sheath.
    -Home made fire piston I'm working on as we speak.
    -A few canned arizona teas, mainly for the cans.
    -My thick machette. It's a much thicker heavier blade than your typical machette.
    -500 ft paracord.
    -4 light shirts
    -4 pairs pants
    -2 belts
    -8 pairs socks
    -Keltec SU-16 with 300 rounds for protection

    That would cover everything I'd really need. I'd probably include another smaller knife as well, and my multitool, but those are things I take even on day hikes.
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    Well, take a pack, too. Those clothes are going to get mighty dirty dragging 'em through the swamp.
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    Lol. True true Rick. I can fit that all in my old ruck sack from benning, which would also give me the frame to use for metal pipe if needed. Also forgot I always take a stainless steel water bottle to boil water in.
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    yeah i think he could do without some of the gear personaly,like the fold up saw and shovel and go with either a axe or hand axe.definitly need to bring plenty of salt,and id say the wind up radio is a plus just to fight off the loneliness and get weather reports if you can pick up anything at all.i have a question though,ive only been out in the wilderness for a couple of weeks at a time and never had a problem but to stay a whole year what about rangers and such and if you use trees in the building of your shelter and fishing do you need a licsence,what kind of legal problems could you expect to run into if your camp is discovered.no matter how well hidden you risk someone seeing the smoke from your fire and all of a sudden your surrounded by firefighters?any info would be helpfull

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    Welcome Thunderson5 you may want to go to the introduction section and introduce yourself. Just saying It's not a requirement but is a polite way to get to know everyone and a much warmer welcome than you would get otherwise. Check out the sticky at the top it will give you some suggestions on how to get started.

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    Just say you've only been there for a a couple hours. You were hiking then got tired so sat down and had a fire. But as for hiding your shelter, no idea.
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    Cool Hmmm.....

    I wonder if this is the book that started TBWN in the 1st place?

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