The wilderness can change a man............

**mountain mama** · 05-01-2009, 01:27 PM

I had no idea you guys were so philosophical

**Rick** · 05-01-2009, 01:39 PM

It was your word. I assume you know what it meant. Hmmmm?

**wareagle69** · 05-01-2009, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper

Really? Not me. I give a damn what society expects me to be. I am me, no matter what. If society doesn't like it, so ****ing what? Get over it.

personally i think your full of it, you talk a good one but i don't buy it for one second

**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by wareagle69

personally i think your full of it, you talk a good one but i don't buy it for one second

You can think what you want. See post #28.

**crashdive123** · 05-01-2009, 03:27 PM

Maybe I'm psychic, but I think a reference to post #28 is coming up.

**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by remy

I agree with WE.

"i am me"...does not mean much without us, without society, to compare this "me" you proclaim.

sure it does. I am not dependant on your society for my identity.
With or without you, I'll still be the same old me. Without society, I'm still the same as I was with it.

Peacechicken, or polerider, or whatever he wants to call himself just needed to make himself feel better in my opinion. Apparently he's been infected with the other epidemic running rampant...People shooting off at the mouth about things they have no idea what they are talking about.

**crashdive123** · 05-01-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by remy

No...watch...

I stand corrected. Guess a career at the carnival is out.

**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 03:43 PM

you guys are hilarious.

**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by remy

We rehearse a lot.

Seriously...AS...I am not saying you are dependent on, i know most of you really like your loner status and unique traits...i am simply saying that you exist in relations to.

I am...and i exist, are not the same thing.
Your identity is in direct rapport to existing...existing is in relation to what we have come to call society.

If you want to talk about your temperament, or your nature, then we can argue this relation with an outside object to give you form and life. But as long as you stay in the psychological realm...not so much.

Without my eyes, a tree is.
But the tree exists through my eyes.
It is undeniable that you are, without me or my society.
But for you to exist...for you to be "independent"...you need to position yourself against something. For you to not give a damn, a damn needs to be opposing your vision.

Your body, even without your will...positions itself all along what you call your history in relation to me, to your dogs, to your wife, to your environment...and so on. All those forces are influences.

Dude, I don't know if you missed it or not, but I posted a while back that I quit smoking pot. I think I need to go buy a sack and smoke a fat spliff to fully comprehend the complexity of what you said.

I kid.

But seriously....

I see what you are saying. I agree with some, disagree with some.

My original point was that I am who I am, and if you don't like it, you can get bent. If you don't believe me, you can get bent. If my attitude rubs you the wrong way, you can get bent. Starting to see a pattern? So what if society is part of the influence that made me who I am? If I'm walking down the street and I catch static from someone because I have one of my dogs on a lead, or I'm wearing a NRA t-shirt, or I'm a "fringe extremist" because I post here, am I supposed to care? Am I wrong for not giving a **** that someone else disagrees with my viewpoints? If ANY of you can genuinely tell me "Yes, you are wrong for not trying to fit in with society" I'll call you a liar and a coward for not being yourself.

Shall we go on ?

Nah. For a couple of reasons. One, I don't really feel the need to be psychoanalyzed by someone else, even on a conceptual level. For two, I don't see this going anywhere positive. For three, we are now so far off topic even the ban hampster can't save us. And four, I got off work 12 minutes ago, and now that I'm not chained to my desk, I have other interests than the forum that I would much prefer to pursue.

**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by remy

I understand...
Basically...it's my turn to get bent !
lolll

Yeah, I guess so.

Didn't really mean it to come across that way. But, hey, what the hell, right?

**Rick** · 05-01-2009, 07:40 PM

Wake me up just before the meteor hits will ya? I want to exist just before I don't so I can be before I ain't any more. (rolls over and goes back to sleep.)

**wareagle69** · 05-01-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper

sure it does. I am not dependant on your society for my identity.
With or without you, I'll still be the same old me. Without society, I'm still the same as I was with it.

Peacechicken, or polerider, or whatever he wants to call himself just needed to make himself feel better in my opinion. Apparently he's been infected with the other epidemic running rampant...People shooting off at the mouth about things they have no idea what they are talking about.

i still think you are a blow hard and a liar, and if you care to prove me wrong i have a phone number for you to call.

**Rick** · 05-01-2009, 08:26 PM

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**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by wareagle69

i still think you are a blow hard and a liar, and if you care to prove me wrong i have a phone number for you to call.

you can post your number. *shrug* I don't have a damn thing to prove to you or any other retard half a mile away. The only reason your cojone's are swinging today is because you know I'm in Texas and your in wherever. So don't try to come off all hard like your some badass. It's like this, if you show up on my doorstep we can find out who the bigger man is, k pumpkin? Till then, how about we find a comfortable spot on each other's ignore list? I know you just made mine.

**mountain mama** · 05-01-2009, 08:54 PM

*sending the boys to separate corners*

**mountain mama** · 05-01-2009, 09:05 PM

Are you counting yourself among my offspring?

**mountain mama** · 05-01-2009, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by remy

That's a fun game...

Why would i.

Because I am an awesome mama...just ask my son.

**mountain mama** · 05-01-2009, 09:29 PM

or you could trust the judgment of everyone who knows me (with the exception of my 16-yr-old daughter, because I won't let her get her driver's license until she gets her grades up)