Survival kits info.

**mddubs** · 04-25-2009, 03:29 PM

A lot of the items you guys said I should have I do, they're in item 9. Fish hooks, medicine, needles, safety pins etc. And some of the other items like 550 cord and a tube tent won't fit in the pouch.

I do like the Betadine suggestion. I imagine even the most trained survivalist is pretty helpless against a bacterial infection, so I'll be adding some sort of disinfectant.

I agree the measuring tape is pretty useless, I just tossed it in. I guess I could lose the bobbers, but I'm sticking by my mosquito net and plastic worms. That handheld rod might be something to look into, actually there is a lot of room left in this pouch, it's pretty big.

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As far as my own experience, I don't have any. I just recently got interested in the whole thought of survival and started here. I'm going to try and talk a friend or my brother into heading out into the woods with very minimal equipment sometime this summer, but that might take a lot of convincing.

**mddubs** · 04-25-2009, 03:30 PM

Oh, and what's char cloth and what's it used for?

**mddubs** · 04-25-2009, 03:36 PM

Waterproof matches - Lighter is better, plus FireSteel.
Safety pins - Got'em
Cotton balls soaked in vaseline - For what?
Char cloth - For what?
Candle - Unnecessary I think, fire would be adequate.
Needles/thread - Got'em
Fish hooks - Got'em
Flash light or photon light - Not worth the weight, batteries die.
First aid kit (asprin, ibuprofen, Imodium, Benadryl, butterfly sutures, Band-Aids, etc) - Got most of that
Wet stone - For what?
Heavy duty Trash bags - For what?
550 cord - I have a 100ft shank, but it's too big for the pouch. What would a small piece of cord be good for?
Tube tent - Sounds too big.
Energy bars - Might be good to add 1 or 2. Do they ever expire?
An extra pair of socks and underwear - Won't fit.
GUN! (and ammo of course) - Won't fit.

**Sarge47** · 04-25-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by mddubs

Waterproof matches - Lighter is better, plus FireSteel.
Safety pins - Got'em
Cotton balls soaked in vaseline - For what?
Char cloth - For what?
Candle - Unnecessary I think, fire would be adequate.
Needles/thread - Got'em
Fish hooks - Got'em
Flash light or photon light - Not worth the weight, batteries die.
First aid kit (asprin, ibuprofen, Imodium, Benadryl, butterfly sutures, Band-Aids, etc) - Got most of that
Wet stone - For what?
Heavy duty Trash bags - For what?
550 cord - I have a 100ft shank, but it's too big for the pouch. What would a small piece of cord be good for?
Tube tent - Sounds too big.
Energy bars - Might be good to add 1 or 2. Do they ever expire?
An extra pair of socks and underwear - Won't fit.
GUN! (and ammo of course) - Won't fit.

This post displays your lack of understanding of Survival equipment & how it works. Can you tell me why? Nobody help this time, he needs to learn!

**chiye tanka** · 04-25-2009, 04:43 PM

I know professor, I know!!!!

**mountain mama** · 04-25-2009, 05:05 PM

*shrugs* sorry, mddubs, I tried....might I suggest the little "search" option located at the top of the screen

**Sarge47** · 04-25-2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by chiye tanka

I know professor, I know!!!!

Oh it's so tempting to jump right in, isn't it?

**Sarge47** · 04-25-2009, 05:07 PM

Here's an idea for a new thread: "What the internet DOESN'T teach you about Survival!"

**chiye tanka** · 04-25-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Here's an idea for a new thread: "What the internet DOESN'T teach you about Survival!"

YES!!!!
I like your idea, but I doubt the twinkies will understand it.

**mountain mama** · 04-25-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Here's an idea for a new thread: "What the internet DOESN'T teach you about Survival!"

Is the internet large enough to encompass this topic???

**crashdive123** · 04-25-2009, 05:18 PM

Mddubs I applaud your research and your desire to learn. I am concerned however that I did not see (might have missed it) any sort of disclaimer telling readers of your blog that you have no practical experience. Let me give you an example of what I mean. You have one of those little space blankets in your kit (as does probably everybody else here, including me). You say it's for warmth. The implication is that it will keep you warm. In reality, while it will keep you warmer (that is a good thing) in 30 degree temperatures it will not keep you warm. I just get concerned about information that is presented on the internet that to the inexperienced viewer is legitimate. The reality is, while gaining the knowledge is great - you must (IMO) field test it before you start recommending it, or at least let the viewers know that it is just stuff you read on the internet. I look forward to your reviews of the gear that you have put together.

**Sarge47** · 04-26-2009, 01:29 AM

Don't buy into everything that you read. You've confessed to not having any field experience, so that just means you've "read up on the subject." Based on your posts, you're only a tenderfoot with a looong way to go!

**Gray Wolf** · 04-26-2009, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by mddubs

As far as my own experience, I don't have any.

Oh, and what's char cloth and what's it used for?

Sarge, you called him a tenderfoot, that was a very kind way to describe him.

**chiye tanka** · 04-26-2009, 09:48 AM

G.W., I think Sarge might be getting soft in his old age.

**Sarge47** · 04-26-2009, 10:36 AM

Just trying to teach the Newbies something!

**mountain mama** · 04-26-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Just trying to teach the Newbies something!

and for that, we thank you oh so much, Sarge

(edited to include that I count myself among the newbies since I have been here less than a month and have so much to learn)

**Sam** · 04-26-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by mountain mama

Ok, Ok,

that was my BOB stuff....for the emergency kit itself I would only add: photon light (how else would he find his stuff in the dark?), safety pins, char cloth, small candle, needles/thread, fish hooks (how does he plan to make us of the fishing line and bobbers without the hooks?), and small amount of first aid stuff (the stuff I listed)

Moutain mama, he listed fishing hooks.
-Sam

**mountain mama** · 04-26-2009, 02:47 PM

yeah, he pointed that out, I just didn't see it when taking a glance at the pic

**hoosierarcher** · 04-26-2009, 03:59 PM

I left a comment on your blog about my opinion of the Gerber LMF. All I'll say here is They ruined it by putting serrations on the blade where when doing things like making pegs and tent stakes or just about anything in fieldcraft. JPS(Just Plain Stupid)IMLTHO(In My Less Than Humble Opinion).

**DrWELLth** · 04-26-2009, 05:00 PM

The best outdoor survival kit and first aid kit – is your head to think with, their hands to work with.

Did you catch that?

The best kit = your head to think with, their hands to work with ...

And by 'their hands' I mean ... the ill or injured _or_ those travelling with you!

I have to keep reminding myself ... an outdoor survival kit and first aid kit is not a single ‘bag or bottle of equipment.’ Your ‘kit’ is everything you have with you including:

__ your outdoor survival kit/first aid kit
__ your experience, knowledge and skills
__ the equipment you are carrying with you
__ the equipment others are carrying with them
__ the resources available around you