An Iceage Discovery

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I was pouring over my stones the other day and managed to put togather an ice age stone stove. I wanted to share it with everybody to demonstrate how something beutiful can function as a survival tool, and also i wanted to show how a hand fill of stones can be arranged in an intricate "stack" then carried through the bush without disturbing the "stack" of stones. so what i did is make a video demonstration of of how to do that.

to see the video; just click onto the link in my signature and watch the video called, Trapper Jacks Iceage wilderness oil lamp demonstration and tell me what you think. I would like to have everybodys feedback. would this have any value in your "MAN BAG"

[Runs With Beer]

Nice job on the video, I use bracket fungus also for wicks. Here is a oil lamp I made from pottery last week. Will burn for over a hour with olive oil and a fungus wick. Keep making the videos me Likey

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Thanks, i work diligently to produce good stuff like the stoves I collect and make. I want one of your little lamp stoves I have a stone set that may trade you for it .

[Alpine_Sapper]

I was pouring over my stones the other day and managed to put togather an ice age stone stove. I wanted to share it with everybody to demonstrate how something beutiful can function as a survival tool, and also i wanted to show how a hand fill of stones can be arranged in an intricate "stack" then carried through the bush without disturbing the "stack" of stones. so what i did is make a video demonstration of of how to do that.

to see the video; just click onto the link in my signature and watch the video called, Trapper Jacks Iceage wilderness oil lamp demonstration and tell me what you think. I would like to have everybodys feedback. would this have any value in your "MAN BAG"

Nice job. Going to make a couple of these this coming weekend. Going to take a group of kids camping for the first time, let them build a debris hut, etc. Your lamp should make for a fun project for them for late afternoon. Thanks.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

thank you, those lamps are efficient, dependable, and safe for use indoors or out. I use them to cook on, for heating my shelters, and for light and tool making. its an important skill to have so i dont mind shareing it.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

the thing about this set is that its also a stove for making rendered fat, a stove for cooking meat, a hand warmer and its three seperate wick holders. the stones are like little transformers they rearrange to make other useful arrangements.

[tennecedar]

Just wondering if you ever use any fuel in one of your lamps that doesn't attract bears? I've read where you use olive oil, bacon grease, seed oils, crisco, etc. Those are the last things i want anywhere near my site, much less heating my shelter. And what do ya do with them hot rocks if you have to break camp in a hurry? Hot rocks, hot grease, can't put em in the pack... I'm won't even consider carrying something like that in my hands.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Just wondering if you ever use any fuel in one of your lamps that doesn't attract bears? I've read where you use olive oil, bacon grease, seed oils, crisco, etc. Those are the last things i want anywhere near my site, much less heating my shelter. And what do ya do with them hot rocks if you have to break camp in a hurry? Hot rocks, hot grease, can't put em in the pack... I'm won't even consider carrying something like that in my hands.

i can use pine sap or wax. wilderness stoves are made from the woods,i have no idea what you use, i guess you would try to build a bon-fire in a tent or mabe carry that 40 pound kreosese heater on your back. my stoves have been in use for over 10,000 years. the condensed fuels( like lard), enable me have fire, cook, and heat so i dont need anything else.those stoves you guys use are too heavy,the fuel is costly once it runs out your done(break your sticks) my stove burns any hydrocarbon; i dont run out of fuel and I would definately carry that in my pack!( with a couple pounds of crisco, or pine sap ,or wax ) try that with your stoves, you dont have anything that i would carry as a stove. what do you use that would be so much better? ps. crisco dos'nt smell like food when it burns.

[Rick]

I don't think he was challenging you. I think he was asking you questions on how you deal with a couple of issues. IMHO.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

These type of stove offer the best possible situation. my stove will provide cooking heat for 5 hours on a 6 fl. oz. fill try burning a propane trail stove for 5 hours anr you are out of fuel. when mine run out i get pine sap,how can you refill an empty propane in the woods.( mabe that RV site)?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I don't think he was challenging you. I think he was asking you questions on how you deal with a couple of issues. IMHO.

an objective stammer, thats all. i educate by example and comparison.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

the iceage stove provides the best possible array of fuels to use, no other stove can do that. coleman has a model that runs white gas and unleaded gasoline. the bulk of it is encumbering., micro stoves have micro fuel cans and they bare heavy. the best bet is lard or pinesap for survival. the stove should take away the fear of not having enough fuel, the stones can be put togather anywhere(common stone shapes )no need to carry those. the bowl can be wood or stone or permafrosted soil, no need to carry the bowl, the fuel can be animal fat or pine sap, no need to carry that either. so you see its the perfect stove.

[crashdive123]

I've got to be completely honest - while I like the oil/wax/sap stoves, and it is great to have that knowledge - for me it, along with different methods of starting a fire are just tools in the tool box. I will not be giving up my modern stoves, or the ones that I have built, but it is nice to know that I can get by without them if the situation arises.

[tennecedar]

Wow, I had no idea you'd react so strongly to a couple of questions. Actually I don't heat my shelter with any device. My shelter does it's job- shelters me from the elements. My clothes and blanket keep me warm. You said crisco doesn't smell like food when burning. What I would worry about is everything that came in contact with it that isn't getting set on fire to get rid of the smell. As far as cooking goes I don't need a 10,000 year old design. My multi fuel stove allows me to boil water and make a meal to suit my needs. When I'm finished I can pack up and be on my way. I was asking legitimate concerns about your lamps and you fly into me. Way to educate by example and comparison. Good job.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Wow, I had no idea you'd react so strongly to a couple of questions. Actually I don't heat my shelter with any device. My shelter does it's job- shelters me from the elements. My clothes and blanket keep me warm. You said crisco doesn't smell like food when burning. What I would worry about is everything that came in contact with it that isn't getting set on fire to get rid of the smell. As far as cooking goes I don't need a 10,000 year old design. My multi fuel stove allows me to boil water and make a meal to suit my needs. When I'm finished I can pack up and be on my way. I was asking legitimate concerns about your lamps and you fly into me. Way to educate by example and comparison. Good job.

It wasnt my intent to be snappy, if someone has no stove to use in the woods; three stones,a shallow depression,a bracket wick, and some pinesap will put you right in there where you want to be.if i dont carry a stove and fuel in my pack i can get that when i need it. and i can use a large variety of fuels.that gives me comfort,and i dont depend on encumbering, bulky equipment in my pack. The bear doesnt scare me, if oil attracts the bear to my camp. its a good chance for food and burnable lard. the bear is my menue, i'm not on his

[Alpine_Sapper]

the bear is my menue, i'm not on his

lol. Careful, you may have some numpty out there with a fork and a can of bear spray because he read it was better than a firearm...

I'd pay to see that video though....

[tennecedar]

The bear doesnt scare me, if oil attracts the bear to my camp. its a good chance for food and burnable lard. the bear is my menue, i'm not on his

Well OK then..... Now I see how you view that. Good luck.

[ClayPick]

Seal oil with a wad of arctic cotton grass and peat makes a really good stove, any type of fuel is a bonus when you get above the tree line. It's hard to find a perfect wick and the best seem to need attention every so often. Any moisture in the wick or fuel seems to be the biggest pain. Good video!

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I traded the modern stove for the old way several years ago. the encumbering bulky stoves run out of fuel quickly. a one pound propane last for 2 hours one pound of lard lasts for 48 hours, propane doesnt stack up to a better more condensed fuel. we tried to entice a bear to our camp at nantahala a few years ago, we hung every meat and cookie, but no bear came. i dont wast my time to worry for a bear. they are scavengers that come around after a camp is broken, yea you hear about bear attacks, you are more likley to get struck by lightening

[tennecedar]

I don't stand on a hilltop holding a metal rod during thunderstorms either. I'm happy that you're happy with your rock stoves. If we ever meet up, just let me know that you have that kind of fuel and i'll move my camp well away from yours. Best of luck on the bear enticing thing.