How to be a good shot

[Alpine_Sapper]

It's a movie now. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1028532/

holy crap! And it's not even like everyone in it is a scrub. Richard Gere? I'm...stunned.

[Ken]

holy crap! And it's not even like everyone in it is a scrub. Richard Gere? I'm...stunned.

Looking at the movie info a bit more, I see that it was filmed less than 10 miles from where I live. That's why Gere was showing up at some of the local eateries!

[ClayPick]

“You can teach a certain amount of it, but there is a large percentage that you must have naturally. A good shooter is born. You can’t teach someone to be a good shot if they don’t naturally have it.” Cpl. Rob Furlong.

[lucznik]

...if a .50 will go through an APC from 100yds or so, and keep traveling after penetrating BOTH sides of the armored vehicle, I don't think it would have any trouble taking off a deers head.

K, pumpkin? thnx, bye.

Sorry, but those are two completely separate and unrelated issues involving widely divergent mechanisms of injury. The one does not logically lead to the conclusion of the other.


And please don't call me pumpkin. We're not that close.

[Alpine_Sapper]

“You can teach a certain amount of it, but there is a large percentage that you must have naturally. A good shooter is born. You can’t teach someone to be a good shot if they don’t naturally have it.” Cpl. Rob Furlong.

Not to disagree with the corporal there, but, I personally think the situation is reversed. You can teach the majority of it, and make some one a good shooter, but for them to be truly great they have to have some natural aptitude.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Sorry, but those are two completely separate and unrelated issues involving widely divergent mechanisms of injury. The one does not logically lead to the conclusion of the other.


And please don't call me pumpkin. We're not that close.

Sorry, but what a .50 does to an APC it will do much worse to flesh and bone. If you can't see that then there's no point in talking to you. And uh, no problem, punkin.Have a nice day!

[ClayPick]

Not to disagree with the corporal there, but, I personally think the situation is reversed. You can teach the majority of it, and make some one a good shooter, but for them to be truly great they have to have some natural aptitude.

True, but i guess what Furlong considers to be a good shot would be quite elevated.

[Rick]

Anyone have an APC, a deer and a .50 handy? We can settle this pretty quick. Wouldn't it be logical to conclude that yes it would and no it wouldn't? Depending on distance, terrain, humidity, angle of impact, etc. etc. etc.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Anyone have an APC, a deer and a .50 handy? We can settle this pretty quick. Wouldn't it be logical to conclude that yes it would and no it wouldn't? Depending on distance, terrain, humidity, angle of impact, etc. etc. etc.

lol. I was thinking something along the same lines. Since this is a completely theoretical argument, it's pretty much pointless to keep going.

[Rick]

Thanks, pumpkin.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Thanks, pumpkin.

No problem tweetheart.

[Beans]

Would you believe my dear uncle Sam that is had BB guns without sights and could teach you to hit another BB in the air with one??? Point shooting training.

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Yup Been there.

When shooting Cowboy matches I still only use the front sight on the rifle. No problem Hitting the targets out to 50 yards.

I have also shot coyotes on the run using only the front sight, under 60 yards

Just put it where you want the bullet to go.


FWIW I have been a Certified NRA firearms instructor since 1978, and in my humble experience teaching someone that will listen and apply what they are taught will result in a better, read that as a more accurate shooter then the natural born shooter that knows everything and won't accept instructions.

[Ole WV Coot]

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Yup Been there.

You're about as old as I am. Thought that was only taught in the '60s. One thing, I was taught to shoot by my Grandpa & Dad but for some reason handguns just came naturally. Not talking about bulls eye, had to learn a little on that but practical pistol or point shooting I can't remember when I didn't have what seems like a natural aptitude or maybe I just started around 55yrs ago and don't remember. I still fire 50 minimum in a 22 a few times a week and empty my carry 45 & mags once a month. I don't wear glasses, hate them but I rely on point shooting completely now. I don't have a stance, use either hand from any position, use one or two hands and am unorthodox so I do think natural aptitude is there but training will enhance it and some folks never learn, why I wouldn't try to guess.

[Rick]

I just started around 55yrs ago and don't remember

At our age it's hard to remember why we walked into the bathroom. You almost need to carry a check list.

[Beans]

You're about as old as I am. Thought that was only taught in the '60s.

You are right! USMC Ret. 1961-1971

I don't wear glasses, hate them but I rely on point shooting completely now.

Glasses? Not yet but I am getting close. My eyes test at 20/30. In my young days my eyes tested 10/20

I point shoot my pistols under 10 yards. I have been shooting "COWBOY" (SASS) since 1988 and I can't remember when I looked at the sights instead of the target.

I just attended my first IDPA workshop, as I have never shot that style of match. Under 10 yards I didn't use my sights on the floppers either: ( Bad guy moving or hostage target moving.) I did use the sights on the steel knockdowns at 15 yards.

My split times using my Glock was .22, .24, and .22 between 3 shots. on a floppers and Yes they hit the COM circle on the IDPA target just over an inch apart

[wildography]

I point shoot my pistols under 10 yards.

Good point; I remember reading an FBI statistic, one time, that said that most of the shootings (in which agents were involved) were at an average distance of 7 yards.

So, when I used to shoot a lot, I would practice "combat shooting" at 7 yards - or less. My 3 "basic" stances were 1) hip shooting; similar to "cowboy style" fast draw; 2) a custom modified "modified Weaver stance" - I'd twist my upper body further toward my "strong side" and bring the handgun further within my range of control; 3) a "close-in" guard stance - shooting from the hip while using body positioning and my left arm to simulate fending off an attacker within arm's reach.

Of course, if you're wearing body armor... you don't want to turn your side toward the shooter, as that is where your "weak points" are.

Oh, by the way, most of my "points" (in this post and others) are geared toward human targets. I use different methods for "non-human" targets.

That's an important point to keep in mind: your choice of shooting stances and "style" of shooting would vary with many different variables... you should practice them all. You'd use different styles of "shooting platforms" based on weapon selection, range, terrain conditions, shooting situations, target type, etc.

When I was a member of the "Emergency Services Team" in the U.S.A.F., I would even practice "speed shooting" by facing away from the target, drawing and firing behind me by shooting under my left arm... I got to where I could hit center-mass at 7 yards, even though my feet were facing away from the target. Of course, I did this on my own... the Range Master would probably get pissed if you tried this at your local shooting range.

the key to becoming a better shot is practice, practice, practice...

[trax]

Well given that this thread was started by a woman who wanted to know more about shooting moose or caribou, chances are she won't be needing body armor. I've never seen either of them shoot back, although I suspect my statement may elicit some kind of cartoon from one of our super-moderators.

[Rick]

Due to economic constraints, moose will no longer be employed to appear in frivolous cartoons. All questions that would have required moose models will now be forwarded to Maude for a response. (think carefully before you ask!).

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[tennecedar]

Had to be posted.

[trax]

Rick, is that a MAUDE-erator?