Knife/Survival Knife Info.

[Rick]

My belief is you could cut your way over to the Introductions section and tell us a bit about yourself.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14

Oh, as for the knives, if that's what you like, then fine.

[Rick]

We posted together.

[crashdive123]

Great minds think alike.

[miaborris19]

If you found yourself in a survival situation, which blade/s would you want with you?

To those who already have these, which have you found the best, most reliable and most durable? Please don't point me to a Rambo special off ebay which falls apart in 5 minutes.

I suppose we could look at axes/machetes as well as knives,a young tree takes a while to hack down with even the best hunting knife!

I'm guessing most would idealy want about 3 with them. Axe/machete for the big stuff, decent large knife capable of skinning and stuff and a smaller blade for the more menial blade tasks.

Any recommendations?


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[Rick]

Which one would I want? The one I have with me.

You can't post your link in the body of your message. I assume you are affiliated with them.

In any case, why not cut yourself a path to our Introduction section and tells us something about yourself?

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14

[NCO]

NCO, I think you described the laminated blade. Mora also makes Stainless, Carbon steel and Triflex. I do agree with you, however, that Mora is a tool. All knives are tools. I wouldn't try to judge it against a Ka-Bar for example. They are meant to fill different niches.

I cannot claim that I have tried out every type of mora there is. I even suspect that they sell some models there that arn't sold here, cause their bad reputation in finland.
For that every knife is a tool I must disagree. Most Finns(those living in rural areas) view a good puukko like Japanese view a katana. It is more than just a tool. Like katana is more than just a weapon. Puukko is still just piece of steel and wood bond together, but also something else. A very good puukko can be two - three generations old, keeping its edge and moving from father to son. Puukko is the ultimate tool, (the ultimate weapon as well) the only tool that you can trust 100%.

[Rick]

Sweden(I'm not rasist, but I don't generally like them, or more spesificly their culture...)

You wouldn't be just a tad bit prejudice, would you? Mora=Sweden, Puuko=Finland.

Oh, well. You like Puuko, the next guy likes Ka-Bar and Rambo likes...well...Rambo knives.

[NCO]

You wouldn't be just a tad bit prejudice, would you? Mora=Sweden, Puuko=Finland.

Oh, well. You like Puuko, the next guy likes Ka-Bar and Rambo likes...well...Rambo knives.

Of course I am prejudice(like 96% of us), thats the whole point!

My heart is breaking! You misspelled the holy puuKKo!!!

[crashdive123]

NCO said: For that every knife is a tool I must disagree.

and then

NCO said: Puukko is the ultimate tool

Are you starting to argue with yourself or is it that some tools are better than others?

[NCO]

You must give me that I don't have the neccesary vocabularity to properly express myself. I'm not writing in my native language. As I said, it is not JUST a tool...

[tennecedar]

Puukko is the ultimate tool, (the ultimate weapon as well) the only tool that you can trust 100%.



I was in the butcher shop the other day picking up a few things. Above the cutting table was a rack with 20-30 knives in it. It seamed some had similar designs but no two were identical. This shop is a second generation establishment. They know their business well. It seams to me if a butcher would have so many blades just for cutting meats, there is no holy grail, do everything perfectly, wonder knife. Most any cutting chore can be accomplished with nearly any blade. Some perform better than others. If there were one knife in the world that performed every task perfectly, there wouldn't be so many knife companies. I choose to carry more than one. Sometimes as many as four. All for a different use.

[NCO]

It is not so much about the knife, but the user. Of cource certain designs work better in certain situations. The puukko is almost an institution in finland. What I described you earlier is the deeper meaning the puukko has to most finns. I do not claim that it would actually preform any better at given tasks than another knife, just that it is generally concidered as supreme form of knife, in finland. Remember that in addition to personal differences, I also live in complately different culture and thus see certain things from very different point of view. When I write here I try to be as general as possible in order to avoid misunderstandings, but sometimes the basic nature of a finn kicks in...

[Rick]

NCO, you do just fine for not using your native language. You should read my Finnish. What am I saying? You couldn't read my Finnish. No one could.

[RangerXanatos]

This next one is so old that it deasn't even have any fancy name (couldn't find one), but it is also made by Iisakki Järvenpää:
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Looks kinda like one of mine.

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There's some etching on the blade but I can't read it.

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[loki]

www.ragweedforge.com

Look up the Frost's and KJ Eriksons Mora knives. I am partial to the 780 Triflex Craftsman and for around $10 you can't go wrong with anything on those pages. If you are really looking for a solid "user" knife for the bush pick one up and you will be happy.

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I got turned on to Mora's a number of years ago and have almost 20 of them now. I always take one along to the bush no matter what else I carry and they get more actual use than any other blade I take out there aside from my machetes. They are the most bang for the buck in the knife world. Mac

I actually own three moras a clipper in carbon and a swedish army knife and morakniv scout in stainless. I like them all with the clipper being my favorite. I use them a lot around the house and in the kitchen but none have seen any real hard use. How do these knives hold up over a period of time. I read somewhere else that these knives were meant to be disposable and the more you sharpen the less they will hold an edge. I do not have any of the laminated versions so maybe that does not apply to me because I have actually seen the opposite at least with my clipper. When I first got it came shaving sharp but it would not hold an edge to save its life, I was almost ready to discard when I came across an article saying you had to get down to the good metal. After a few more shapenings I did notice an increase in edge retention. While it is no super steel by far I find for utility and kitchen work cutting up meat and vegetable it works great. I just wondered what kind of life expectancy should I get out of one if I chose to use it in a wilderness camping setting.

[loki]

Really? I consider anything above eight because most of the blades I currently own are around six inches to a foot probably. I mean don't get me wrong, there's a lot of good knives out there that are smaller, when I was shopping for knives the other day I came across a beautiful survival knife, but the make was an extremely expensive company, the maker was SOG and the knife model was called 'Tigershark' Beautiful knife, but expensive as hell!

Well you think that is big try me being at work one day and I wipped out my trusty SAK trekker with the locking blade and a clients response was wow thats a big knife. I was really surprised and while perfectly legal in my area I decided to put it up and try to change the subject. People who are afraid of knives tend to blow citings way out of porportion when they want to. I was just amazed at what people are afraid or think is a large knife sometime. I have even had people say man what are you doing with that rambo knife it I take out my CRKT M16-13M to cut some rope.

[NCO]

When I first got it came shaving sharp but it would not hold an edge to save its life, I was almost ready to discard when I came across an article saying you had to get down to the good metal. After a few more shapenings I did notice an increase in edge retention.

That is exactly how it works. That is also the mai flaw of the knife. In time you'll notice that the harder core metal will not wear evenly with the outer soft metal. This will result you having a knife that is sharpened to wrong angle and thus not working as id should. You can save the situation by filing down the hard metel, but it is very time consuming and carefull work.

I just wondered what kind of life expectancy should I get out of one if I chose to use it in a wilderness camping setting.

I would give it two to four years until what I described above will prove an issue.


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There's some etching on the blade but I can't read it.

Nice puukko you got there! Whats on the blade, can't say. I don't think it is finnish, thats for sure. "Tuuihava": Thats what it looks like to me.

[Gray Wolf]

Looks kinda like one of mine.

There's some etching on the blade but I can't read it.

RX, where did you find that Puukko?

[Ameriborn]

If you go to BF you will see that Moras are being batoned, and put through paces like a regular knife. Some people have sharpened them a tremendous amount of times and they work just fine. They are not "Cheap" in quality, at all. They out-perform many knives at 5 even ten times the cost.

[RangerXanatos]

RX, where did you find that Puukko?

It was a gift to me that came from my grandmother that said some one else in the family gave to her a long time ago. She said it came from Alaska and was well over 50 years old. Don't know how much truth is in all of that though...