Ran across this while surfing. anyone use one, hear of it, know anything about it? http://www.miox.com/miox-solutions/M...ifier-Pen.aspx
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Ran across this while surfing. anyone use one, hear of it, know anything about it? http://www.miox.com/miox-solutions/M...ifier-Pen.aspx
Nice, but sucking straws is lame.
I dont think its a Straw, because there is a dwell time after filtering before drinking the water. I read thru the site but Its kind of vague.
here is the spec sheet... http://www.miox.com/images/datasheet...r_Consumer.pdf
this explains how it works. http://www.miox.com/miox-solutions/P...enceOnline.pdf.
Its 130.00 MSRP.
hmmm. So basically it mixes fresh water with salt to turn it into brine, and then zaps it to create a solution which you then use to treat water you are going to consume. So I'm guessing the ionized salt molecules are what deactivate the bacteria/viruses/protozoa. I don't think this would remove any toxins/pollutants in the water, however. But with no filter to replace and simple batteries and salt needing to run the thing, I think it might be a perfect addition to an emergency kit. Are these being offered for sale already? I couldn't find that on the website.
Another thought I just had, if all there is to it is salt, a couple of AA batteries and untreated water from whatever source, I wonder how hard it would be to make one of these.
I found one on ebay, but haven't found a site that sells them !Quote:
Originally Posted by MamaBear
That is pretty interesting. Cascade Designs no longer offers them so it looks like their partnership with Miox has ended. I wonder if it has been taken off the market for some reason?
MSR made the only MIOX filters I ever ran across. Those were several years ago. Seems like they never sold to well. I never tried one out.
I am pretty sold on the Sawyer brand. The zero point two model in particular.
Maybe it isnt as good as it sounds!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I have heard about it before. But, there are a few things that make it something that I won't consider. First is the price, hey I am cheap. I saw a Sawyer Squeeze at Walmart the other day for $29. That sure beats the $100+ of miox. I also don't like my water filter to run on batteries. Plus the sawyer is lighter and doesn't need replacement filters. I also like the convenience of "instant" clean water. I don't have to wait for chemicals to work. Of course, any filter has it's drawbacks. Any filter will clog, and almost all filters aren't good against viruses (Sawyer does have one that is.....but it is heavier and more expensive). Of course, viruses generally aren't a concern.
Here is a review, by the way...http://www.backpackgeartest.org/revi...id%20McKinnon/
http://www.thebackpacker.com/gear/wa...x_purifier.php
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-..._to_post=91063
I want a filter that will kill Cryptosporidiosis and Giardiasis because to me those virus are a concern.
I didn't know those two were viruses.Quote:
Originally Posted by welderguy
Most filters will filter them out and prevent them from getting in your clean water. Look for a filter with the words "reverse osmosis". Those will protect against Crypto as will any filter with an absolute pore size smaller than 1 micron. If the filter is less than 1 micron you will exclude both Crypto and Ghiardia. But look for the term "absolute" with regard to pore size. Otherwise, the size of the pores will be variable and can pass some buggies.
I didnt look it up but im pretty sure they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by finallyME
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Originally Posted by welderguy
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Originally Posted by finallyME
They are both parasites.Quote:
Originally Posted by welderguy
Ok but are they a virus? :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
No, but he was.
http://mooselicker.files.wordpress.c..._the_virus.gif
hahahaha!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
From what I understand, viruses and parasites are different. But, I ain't no microbiologist.Quote:
Originally Posted by welderguy
they are different, I wasn't sure thats why i said I think they are. I do know they will make a sick as a dog!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by finallyME
Viruses are much smaller than cysts. They'll pass right through a water filter. That's why you still need to treat the water if you filter it.
just curious here, where do the brain eating amoebas they are getting in FL fall into the size category? THAT is some scary stuff.
It's called Naegleria fowleri and they are pretty large. Any filter with an ABSOLUTE pore size of 1 micron or smaller will block them.
Here's more info if you are interested:
http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/naegleria/general.html
They were a problem in a lot of texas lakes a year or two ago, claimed a couple lives. haven't heard any reports of that this year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
seems as though its mostly young people that have the issue...correlation, or just because they get in the water more often?
I'm guessing it's due to youngsters tend to ingest lake water more than adults do.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinookpilot77
Um...filters don't really "kill" anything do they? Don't they just filter it out? If you want to kill the bad stuff don't you have to "treat",that is dose, the water with bleach or iodine? I am asking here not saying? I know I back wash my filter regularly and wash it with a 1 to 10 bleach solution when I get back home. Just the filter cartridge not the whole rig. I just use soap and water on the rest of it.
It depends on the filter. Some, like Katadyn's Mini Ceramic Filter have silver impregnated ceramic filters. Others include a chemical filter in addition to the ceramic. Most just block the bugs as you said.
It seems that it enters through the sinuses. Probably why it is associated with jumping and diving into water and other activities usually done more often by younger people.Quote:
Originally Posted by welderguy
Yeah, my days of jumping and diving have slowed down a bit. Today it's all about slipping and falling.
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