And we should care WHY?
Kerry: Foreign students 'scared' of guns in U.S.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...f-guns-in-u-s/
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And we should care WHY?
Kerry: Foreign students 'scared' of guns in U.S.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...al-gallery.jpg
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...f-guns-in-u-s/
I hosted an international group some years back. Some were from Singapore, some from Malaysia (he was a character) and some from Latin America. The guy from Singapore was scarred chitless. He wanted to know where all the police were. I told him they were around if we needed them and asked him if he was concerned for some reason. "Shootem up bang, bang," was his reply. I asked him to explain a bit more. "Al Capone, Baby Face Neeelson, Pretty Boy Floyd." I couldn't help but laugh. Way too many late night movies on his channel.
I guess if you live in a country where weapons are tightly controlled I could see why you might have some fear, founded or not, in coming to the U.S. - Probably the same fear I have about going to Mexico. Oh, wait minute. They tightly control guns down there. Hmmmmm.
Who gives a flying flick about what foreign students think? They are guests here...if they're scared, let them stay home or go elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
Besides...I manage to survive in foreign countries where they don't bathe and use deodorant, and you don't hear me squawk to them about it.
Now that's just plain wrong. PU BO.
+1...............Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
Well, I have pictures of a Chinese national exchange student holding several firearms in my house. Didn't seem scared at all.
We have many Chinese exchange students at Michigan Tech U. and some that I have encountered are buying and shooting various firearms. One had a KelTec 9mm carbine and was shooting at the schools indoor pistol range when I was there one day.
Many Americans are afraid of John Kerry...the guy reminds me of Boris Karloff!...:laugh: I, for one, am nervous about all of the Foreign students coming in!....:osama:
Kerry is also affectionately known in Massachusetts as "Live Shot," "Horseface," "Mr. Ed," or "That Gigolo $0# of a 8!tc4." :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
We hosted a German exchange student several years ago. He elected to go back home after the fall semester, afraid he was academically falling behind his classmates back in Wuppertal. Good kid and an excellent student too! It painted a dismal picture about the quality of education we're providing our children here in the states.
I'd say this is a much bigger problem than fear of gun violence.
When I lived in Los Angeles I used to sometimes shoot at the Tujunga Canyon Angeles Range. One afternoon I was there on the pistol range. A young man I knew from a local gun club came out in a van type bus. He was Japanese American. With him were perhaps a dozen Japanse tourists, men and several women. They trooped to the pistol range where the Japanese American man began unloading several bags filled with handgun cases.
He unzipped the cases and laid out at least a dozen pistols and revolvers on the table. Another large box was filled with ammo. After setting up targets down range he then began showing the tourists how to handle and shoot the handguns. They listened carefully to him as he spoke fluent Japanese and coached them in the safety measures, sight picture, etc., etc. Not one of the Japanese tourists showed any fear or apprehension, but a tremendous amount of interest.
One by one as the young man watched, they banged away and had a great time. A whole lot of bullets went downrange into the targets. When they took a short break, I talked with the young man with whom I was acquainted. I said, "Looks to me like you're not ever going back to Manzanar."
He smiled and said, "S.M., you ain't kiddin'."
A good friend of mine had two young German exchange students staying with him for a year. My friend had taken them to a range where they fired a number of his firearms and enjoyed it thoroughly. He and I took them to the big L.A. Gun Show in Pomona. This was before the communistnazis of Calif., had outlawed private transactions, EBUG semi-auto firearms, etc. (EBUG = Evil Black Ugly Gun. )
It was a great show. The two young German students were not afraid to be in the presence of dozens of thousands of firearms and thousands of firearms owners, but were absolutely fascinated with what they saw and experienced. Not any mass shootings, not even one murder, just people enjoying themselves and exercising their Rights and Freedom.
The German students expressed how they wished they could have the same Rights and Freedoms in Germany, but the "authorities" prohibited them to own most firearms and the few they could own were strictly controlled. The "hoops" one had to jump through to own a firearm were very restrictive. Of course, German criminals did not bother to obey any of the laws: only the honest citizens.
I think there are not nearly as many people in foreign countries who are "afraid to come to America," as Mr. Kerry and his brainwashed ilk believe.
S.M.
We should care because were a sympathetic caring nation, and we should make sure that ever one that comes here from a foreign land gets what ever they want and need, with no thought or caring about the people that were born and raised here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
Had a guest from Iceland. No fear, only fascination.
I think Benesse Said it best, Deal with it or go home. or better yet dont come here at all if your gonna be a cry baby
I personally dont give a rat's arse what people from other countries think about our gun laws & rights... Its none of there business nor concern.
EB
I work with a Chinese immigrant (who happens to have several graduate degrees in different fields). She is very curious about guns, and when things cool off in her personal life, I or another coworker may end up taking her to a range to try some guns out. She's even asked me to take a couple unspent rounds to work for her to see. This is generally the attitude I've seen from many visitors and immigrants from other places. There has been some wonderment, as some folks grow up being told that guns are everywhere here (as in everyone carries one, has one in the car, and several at home ... being able to buy ammo everywhere, guns right off the shelf, etc.), but mostly curious about what it is like to shoot a gun. Rarely is someone afraid, though some are nervous about the risk.
Depending on where some of these folk come from, chances are, the men have, or will serve in the military as part of a peace time draft. Something I believe in for both sexes, no exception. (But that's a whole 'nother story best left for another thread.)
Well, Kerry's boss tells us that 90% of Americans approve of background checks. I guess that Kerry's statement holds as much truth as his boss'.
Count me in the 90%, then.
It amazes me that so many people believe their lies and are so easily socially engineered.Quote:
Originally Posted by finallyME
I don't believe most of it but a background check for a firearm is not too much to ask.
They do those for lesser reasons, and no one's squawking about it.
I respect your opinion B and things like this is where I don't understand why they want to pass new laws when they don't pursue existing laws
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/ar...secute&st=&ps=
It sure has not stopped 12 million illigal Mexicans!
It has done a good job of stopping pedophiles from working in schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
Just because we can't stop everyone, doesn't mean we should give up entirely. It is not either or and it never should be, IMHO.
If true, this is terribly stupid and shortsighted. (It's how good causes get crippled):
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/42-45-dissenting-senators-gun-control-reform-received-cash-gun-lobby?utm_source=OV+Newsletter+List+2&utm_campaign =e86788c580-OV_Newsletter_Apr_194_19_2013&utm_medium=email
"All but three of the U.S. senators who voted against background checks this week received money from the gun lobby.
Of the 45 senators who voted No on gun law reform that would expand background checks for gun purchases, 42 took money from pro-gun groups, according to analysis by The Guardian and the Sunlight Foundation, a nonprofit that utilizes the internet to promote government transparency."
Benesse, You don't really believe that mega-millionaire and billionaire leftists such as your good Mayor Bloomberg, Soros, Buffett, the mega-millonaire leftists of Hollywood, and the various left wing billion dollar Foundations don't funnel millions and millions of $$$$$ to the Senators and Congressmen whom they want to vote against the Second Amendment, do you??
Money from those mega-wealthy leftists flows like water over Niagara Falls into the bank accounts of the Democrat politicians who'll vote to destroy the Second Amendment and the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms. That certainly includes your good Constitituion hating Senator, Chuckie Schumer.
S.M.
Bring in the evidence, prove your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seniorman
That goes for ANYbody, I don't care who you are.
Whatever you can prove in the court of law is what I'm interested in hearing. Short of that, I don't even want to hear the voices in my head.
I think these polls will pretty much support whatever position you want. Who's paying for the results? A lot depends on how the questions are sequenced or structured, and what your choices of response are. I refuse to take polls anymore because all to often there isn't a response that truly captures my position on the issue they're polling. Basically they are just a waste of time and money. The only opinion your congressional representation should concern themselves with is that of their constituents. I figure they get enough phone, internet, and mailed correspondence to know where they stand on any issue. Whether or not they honor that consensus when it comes time to make their vote is another story.
"Prove my case??!"Quote:
BENESSE - " Bring in the evidence, prove your case. That goes for ANYbody, I don't care who you are. Whatever you can prove in the court of law is what I'm interested in hearing. Short of that, I don't even want to hear the voices in my head. "
Is it possible you are so naive and ignorant -- note I said "ignorant," not "stupid," as there is a vast difference -- that you do not know how politicans raise huge sums of money for their "campaign" chests? Have you never heard of thousands of dollars per plate dinners for certain politicians with the money going into their campaign funds?? Also lesser "rubber chicken dinners" for same?? Are you unaware that even if a politician is defeated, the money is kept by him or her and NOT returned to the donors?
Do you not know how the various non-profit political organizations that are funded by incredibly wealthy "patrons" funnel gigantic sums of money into the campaign funds of various politicians? The donors are giving that money to influence that politican to vote a certain way.
Are you actually saying that the left wing politicians are not the recipients of money and "favors" from the lobbying groups who want them to vote against the Second Amendment??
Many years ago a very powerful and influential California Democrat legislator, Jesse Unruh, stated, "Money is the mother's milk of politics." Just as true today as then. Money from the various donors does not just flow to Republican legislators. The Democrats have their hands out holding large buckets to catch the flowing largess too.
That type of money raising is a constant and has been for many, many years.
Believe what you want.
S.M.
Folks....let's leave politics out of it and refrain from name calling.
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