My belief is you could cut your way over to the Introductions section and tell us a bit about yourself.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14
Oh, as for the knives, if that's what you like, then fine.
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My belief is you could cut your way over to the Introductions section and tell us a bit about yourself.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14
Oh, as for the knives, if that's what you like, then fine.
We posted together.
Great minds think alike.
If you found yourself in a survival situation, which blade/s would you want with you?
To those who already have these, which have you found the best, most reliable and most durable? Please don't point me to a Rambo special off ebay which falls apart in 5 minutes.
I suppose we could look at axes/machetes as well as knives,a young tree takes a while to hack down with even the best hunting knife!
I'm guessing most would idealy want about 3 with them. Axe/machete for the big stuff, decent large knife capable of skinning and stuff and a smaller blade for the more menial blade tasks.
Any recommendations?
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Which one would I want? The one I have with me.
You can't post your link in the body of your message. I assume you are affiliated with them.
In any case, why not cut yourself a path to our Introduction section and tells us something about yourself?
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14
I cannot claim that I have tried out every type of mora there is. I even suspect that they sell some models there that arn't sold here, cause their bad reputation in finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
For that every knife is a tool I must disagree. Most Finns(those living in rural areas) view a good puukko like Japanese view a katana. It is more than just a tool. Like katana is more than just a weapon. Puukko is still just piece of steel and wood bond together, but also something else. A very good puukko can be two - three generations old, keeping its edge and moving from father to son. Puukko is the ultimate tool, (the ultimate weapon as well) the only tool that you can trust 100%.
You wouldn't be just a tad bit prejudice, would you? Mora=Sweden, Puuko=Finland.:innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by NCO
Oh, well. You like Puuko, the next guy likes Ka-Bar and Rambo likes...well...Rambo knives.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Of course I am prejudice(like 96% of us), thats the whole point!:tongue_smilie:
My heart is breaking! You misspelled the holy puuKKo!!!:smash:
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NCO said: For that every knife is a tool I must disagree.
Are you starting to argue with yourself or is it that some tools are better than others?Quote:
NCO said: Puukko is the ultimate tool
You must give me that I don't have the neccesary vocabularity to properly express myself. I'm not writing in my native language. As I said, it is not JUST a tool...
Puukko is the ultimate tool, (the ultimate weapon as well) the only tool that you can trust 100%.
I was in the butcher shop the other day picking up a few things. Above the cutting table was a rack with 20-30 knives in it. It seamed some had similar designs but no two were identical. This shop is a second generation establishment. They know their business well. It seams to me if a butcher would have so many blades just for cutting meats, there is no holy grail, do everything perfectly, wonder knife. Most any cutting chore can be accomplished with nearly any blade. Some perform better than others. If there were one knife in the world that performed every task perfectly, there wouldn't be so many knife companies. I choose to carry more than one. Sometimes as many as four. All for a different use.
It is not so much about the knife, but the user. Of cource certain designs work better in certain situations. The puukko is almost an institution in finland. What I described you earlier is the deeper meaning the puukko has to most finns. I do not claim that it would actually preform any better at given tasks than another knife, just that it is generally concidered as supreme form of knife, in finland. Remember that in addition to personal differences, I also live in complately different culture and thus see certain things from very different point of view. When I write here I try to be as general as possible in order to avoid misunderstandings, but sometimes the basic nature of a finn kicks in...
NCO, you do just fine for not using your native language. You should read my Finnish. What am I saying? You couldn't read my Finnish. No one could.
Looks kinda like one of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCO
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1284.jpg
There's some etching on the blade but I can't read it.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSCF1285.jpg
I actually own three moras a clipper in carbon and a swedish army knife and morakniv scout in stainless. I like them all with the clipper being my favorite. I use them a lot around the house and in the kitchen but none have seen any real hard use. How do these knives hold up over a period of time. I read somewhere else that these knives were meant to be disposable and the more you sharpen the less they will hold an edge. I do not have any of the laminated versions so maybe that does not apply to me because I have actually seen the opposite at least with my clipper. When I first got it came shaving sharp but it would not hold an edge to save its life, I was almost ready to discard when I came across an article saying you had to get down to the good metal. After a few more shapenings I did notice an increase in edge retention. While it is no super steel by far I find for utility and kitchen work cutting up meat and vegetable it works great. I just wondered what kind of life expectancy should I get out of one if I chose to use it in a wilderness camping setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pict
Well you think that is big try me being at work one day and I wipped out my trusty SAK trekker with the locking blade and a clients response was wow thats a big knife. I was really surprised and while perfectly legal in my area I decided to put it up and try to change the subject. People who are afraid of knives tend to blow citings way out of porportion when they want to. I was just amazed at what people are afraid or think is a large knife sometime. I have even had people say man what are you doing with that rambo knife it I take out my CRKT M16-13M to cut some rope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goloth
That is exactly how it works. That is also the mai flaw of the knife. In time you'll notice that the harder core metal will not wear evenly with the outer soft metal. This will result you having a knife that is sharpened to wrong angle and thus not working as id should. You can save the situation by filing down the hard metel, but it is very time consuming and carefull work.Quote:
Originally Posted by loki
I would give it two to four years until what I described above will prove an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by loki
EDIT:Nice puukko you got there! Whats on the blade, can't say. I don't think it is finnish, thats for sure. "Tuuihava": Thats what it looks like to me.Quote:
There's some etching on the blade but I can't read it.
RX, where did you find that Puukko?Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerXanatos
If you go to BF you will see that Moras are being batoned, and put through paces like a regular knife. Some people have sharpened them a tremendous amount of times and they work just fine. They are not "Cheap" in quality, at all. They out-perform many knives at 5 even ten times the cost.
It was a gift to me that came from my grandmother that said some one else in the family gave to her a long time ago. She said it came from Alaska and was well over 50 years old. Don't know how much truth is in all of that though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Wolf
I live in Phoenix, Arizona. So most of the people here carry some sort of weapon anyway, not a lot of us are too intimidated by knives, unless you're around a person who's a bit crazy at times, such as myself. I mean, guns are legal to carry here, without a permit, as long as they're in a holster, so as you can imagine, there are a lot of people who carry that kind of stuff 'round. That SAK knife, I looked it up, only looks around five to six inches at the most, good looking knife though I will say, but that's kinda sad that people got freaked out by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by loki
There are several cultures that value one form of blade or another. I personallyQuote:
Originally Posted by NCO
like the Becker BK-10 air crew knife. I own several different knives and I seem to lean toward the bowie style blades.
-Sam
i have a few leather sheaths that i really like. i was wondering what is a good way to keep them in top condition? is there any kind of oil or treatment that you guys recommend?
I use a light coating of neatsfoot oil. Just be careful not to use too much or do it too often - leather will become very soft if you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonester
About the only thing I use on leather is Nikwax or Granger's leather conditioner.
thanks guys. would i be able to pick any of that stuff up at home depot or walmart?
I get mine at sporting goods stores. I use the same stuff that I used to condition a baseball glove - many years ago.
You won't find Nikwax or Grangers at Home Depot and I've never looked at Wally World. You can buy either one on line at just about any outdoor shop. REI, Altrec, Marmot Mountain, just to name a few.
hmmm- i've had the gerber lmf asek-2 for about 7 months now sweet as hell. but if you can't afford that try it's little brother- the gerber prodigy nice knife also. i've never had any problems with gerber knives.some have i guees. the first knife i mentioned is i think the perfect "survival" knife. and get a good multi-tool to go qwith it-- you will be set..
Have one of the original Becker Combat Bowie's and love it! Incredible chopping power.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/VAL737-1.html
Also have the BK-7, nice.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/58638-1.html
Glad Becker is back in business! I HIGHLY recommend both these full tang knives, but for rounding up fire wood, the Combat Bowie wins every time. Made in the USA too!
Boy when you asked that question it sure was a doozy,everyone has their opinion you would've got less replies if you had asked "how to cook a steak" LOL A good quality knife is my reply. although I would have to go with FVR on the Ka-Bar, I used it in the military and for price/quality/dependability it is hard to beat when it comes to fixed blades.I have used a case stockman to skin and gut a deer so know that for that small is sometimes better. but for the butchering the Ka-Bar works well.
think of what use(s) a knife will be used for, and what style would suit the task(s) at hand.After that is considered go for the best quality you can REASONABLY afford.Why spend $100 when $50 is just as good if not as pretty and flashy. Today a lot of knives are like fishing lures they catch the money better than the fish.LOL
A multi-bladed penknife is useful,but if you can carry only one knife choose somthing stronger, a general purpose blade that will do all likely tasks efficiently and comfortably, from cutting trees to skinnig animals and preparing food. some have built in compasses or hollow handles for carrying a kit, but any advantages are offset by the fact that such handles may break or the compass lose its accuracy. An ideal knife is the parang these knifes have three different edges the last 5 cm of the blabe is good for skining, the middle 15 cm of the blade is good for heavy duty work such as chopping, and the lower 10 cm of the blade near the handle is good for carving and delicate work. The curved blade enables maximum effort to be applied when cutting timber and the blade arrives before the knuckles, offering protection. the sheath must have positive fastenings to keep the blade secure and also a loop for fixing to a belt some sheathes have a pocket on the front for a sharpining stone.
Oh, please!! Let's not get started on the perfect knife again. We've been through this a zillion times. There is NO perfect knife. Try the Search button, Skully. There are so many threads on knives. Try this thread. It runs on forever.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1297
Yeah, that's the one!!
Oh, please!! Let's not get started on the perfect knife again. We've been through this a zillion times. There is NO perfect knife. Try the Search button, Skully. There are so many threads on knives. Try this thread. It runs on forever.
I did not say anywhere in that post about perfect knifes im giving my experinced opinion on knifes thats all.
I understand that and I'm glad your opinion is experienced. All I'm suggesting is you try doing a search on a subject before you post on it. We've had extremely long threads on knives. Everyone has a differing opinion on them. And if you're going to post someone else's words, please be so kind as to give them credit. Otherwise it's called plagiarism!!!!
I'm sure John Wiseman would appreciate being credited for his work....
http://books.google.com/books?id=YJ7...age&q=&f=false
I have the answer for the perfect knife!!!
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The one that works best for you!!! :innocent::clap:
[QUOTE=Rick;143273]I understand that and I'm glad your opinion is experienced. All I'm suggesting is you try doing a search on a subject before you post on it. We've had extremely long threads on knives. Everyone has a differing opinion on them. And if you're going to post someone else's words, please be so kind as to give them credit. Otherwise it's called plagiarism!!!!
I'm sure John Wiseman would appreciate being credited for his work....
Look i was trained by british special forces (sas) they follow this book in alot of situations i was handed this book when i completed my advanced training I agree with you when you say everyone has a different opinion my opinion just happens to be the same as john "lofty" wiseman but those writings are his and i apoligize for anyone i angerd.
Oh it's alright Skully, it's just that everyone that has been here for a while has seen some of this stuff said over and over and over again.That's why Rick suggested going and doing a search. I've only been here a month or so and it's about the 3rd or 4th time this kinda' thing has popped up. I was just TRYING to be funny so don't take offense with what I said please. My personal opinion on knives (nobody asked me) is that a knife is a TOOL and just as I wouldn't trust a mechanic who was going to fix my car wit two crescent wrenches,(It can probably be done) as being knowledgable. I don't place too much emphasis on the Perfect knife ideology, Every knife has a purpose and was designed for that purpose. I would think a surgeon trying to perform surgery with a 12" bowie was an idiot,and the same for a camper trying to chop a log with a scalpel. Most everyone here has been here longer than I, so if I've heard it 3-4 times imagine how many times They have heard it. Relax your in good company here. Sit down have a cup of tea or coffee and check out the site is all they are really trying to say.