I can honestly say that if somebody was kicking the carp out of me, I would be aware of it.Quote:
In a self defense situation such as muggings you are better off to just be more aware of your surroundings
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I can honestly say that if somebody was kicking the carp out of me, I would be aware of it.Quote:
In a self defense situation such as muggings you are better off to just be more aware of your surroundings
Nothing gets by ya does it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
You're right Pop, you young fellas take heed, always empty your beer bottle before smacking someone on the head with it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
100% legal here in Kentucky as long as you have your Concealed Deadly Weapons License (CDWL).
That said, I do not recommend carrying only a knife (ANY knife) for self defense.
As was said before, switchblades are illegal in most of the US. Besides, these days tactical lock-back knives are almost as fast. However, my personal opinion is carrying a knife for self defense in the city has many disadvantages. If the bad guy has a gun, you are in trouble. if you stab someone even in self-defense you will most likely be in a lot of trouble. I grew up in a rough neighborhood in New york but was never mugged and though I had my share of streetfights I never had to use a knife. I also worked in prison for 25 years where most of the inmates had knives and I had at most a baton and often not even that. The best advice is to stay out of bad situations as much as possible. learn to defend yourself and be aware of your surroundings. there is usually a weapon around if you need one.
Just start yelling, "I'm a friends of Mike's....I know you guys...we met last month at a party".... "My sister is dating your cousin". Then ask to join the gang!
Then you can become a predator instead of a victim!
yeah thats the ticket....
Krav Magaa...
Go take some classes. Get any good at it at all and the "mugger" will never try it again. Especially because after you kneed him in the crotch and then dislocated his shoulder and elbow, you gave him a knuckle punch to the windpipe while he was lying on the ground simpering...
And if his buddies were watching, they will be "running scared".
Best type of switchblade....? There isnt one!
Nothing against the martial arts but that last phrase was ambitious at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badawg
Where I come from, bad guys carry firearms.
As mentioned, avoidance is your number one "weapon" and thankfully where I live, CCW is number two.
I do believe that's all that really needed to be said on the matter. Well done, Jay!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay
Don't ruin your future with an illegal weapon. Go by wally world. They have for sale a "Triple Pack" of "Binaca breath spray."
It's primary ingredients are Alcohol and Isabutane.
Spray In Eye's, stand back and enjoy. Repeat if necessary :D
When you can legally carry, then do so.
Correction, Switchblades Are Legal in many states, Florida is one of them, as long as the knife is fully visible, and even then, if the blade (starting where the seration or actual edge starts) is under 3 1/2 - 4 inches, folds back into the handle, and is undeniably a pocket knife, can be concealed by anyone over the age of 18, and theres a loophole for minors in some states. Some states allow switchblades to be carried but only when visible, others don't allow them at all. Most of what I just stated is word for word from the constitution of Florida, North Carolina, and Tennessee(varying slightly from state to state)
In texas there legal to purchase and own but get caught carring one and your screwed.
Hey Marine - how about cutting your way over to the introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself. Thanks. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14
Here is a link that lists the laws in each state. Why are we on a 6 month old thread anyway?
http://www.amatecon.com/switchblade.html
You know how Marines get.
Pffffft. Jarheads.
Last time I checked, you could not carry one in FL without a CWP.
I don't care for them much. I can open my Emerson faster then any switchblade.
And my .9mm is even quicker than that....just sayin'.
I for one have never seen a switchblade that was worth the price as a weapon. I agree with other Krav Maga, improvised weapons, pepper spray, a money toss and run are all better than a switchblabe knife.
I lived in a yearly bad neighborhood before I went into the Corps. This is something I did that I only offer as an anecdote. I filled a large fast food plastic drink cup with gas and put the lid on it with a straw in it. It looked like I was walking with a drink. I held it in my left had with a Zippo lighter concealed in my right. Muggings were done by gangs of over 10 young thugs back then.There was always a leader that would do the talking. I hit the big thug in the chest with the big cup and gas splashed all over him and them in anger he started to charge. I backed away a few steps and then he stopped because he got a whiff of what was soaking his clothes then he would scream and run when he saw me standing there with a lit Zippo. I'm sure I'd have gone to prison if caught in the aftermath had I ever had to ignite the gas. BUT as it worked everytime to keep me from an a$$ whuppin' I am not sorry I thought it up or did it.
Watching that would have been worth the price of admission.
I'll echo what everybody else has said. In most states they are legal to own, but not legal to carry... unless you happen to be a police officer. And, as others have said, there are better self defense options out there. I would use a knife for self-defense only as a last resort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geronimo!
That said, I rate the best switchblade on the market to be the GT Knives Automatic:
http://www.bladehq.com/images/knives/brand/GTser.jpg
http://www.famoustrails.com/gtknives/about.html
It is very fast, very well-made, and to a casual observer appears to be a conventional folding knife with a thumb-stud on the blade for opening it. The button that activates the knife is generally mistaken for a manufacturing badge, and not a button. What this means, is that if a bad guy gets the knife away from you while it is closed, he will probably not be able to figure out how to open it for a while.
If you do choose to carry a knife which you intend to deploy quickly, I feel the best option out there right now is the Spyderco Delica 4 with an Emerson hook on it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pict
http://www.knifeworks.com/productima...o/sC11PGYW.jpg
The knife is designed to be carried clipped inside your front pocket, partially visible (not concealed). As you pull the knife from your pocket, the Emerson hook catches the lip of your pocket and opens the knife. In my opinion, this is much faster than even an automatic, and easier to use in high-stress situations because you are not feeling around for a button to press. You pull the knife out, it is immediately open and ready to be used.
It is also small enough to be considered a legal pocket knife in most areas.
This would be my top recommendation as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
Eat a lot of fish, do you? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Never bring a knife to gun fight. Concealed Carry is the way to.Providing you are legally able.
I was jumped and mugged several times while living in Phila. One incident I came across 4 guys wanting to mess with a guy by himself. I let them get their fun in without fighting back(I was drinking and had my paycheck on me). Then one went for my groin and I lost it. The groin guy got a busted nose and I shoved another into the others and decided to run...right into 6 of their friends. I ran around a corner and got one in the face when he came around but when I tried to run again I stupidly tripped on the curb. I put my face between curb and street and took a kicking to. I thought this was it and tried to get back up. They kept kicking me down, telling me thats what I get for fighting back. What pissed me off was that there were people standing in their door watching me get kicked to death. One woman(and the only neighbor I didn't curse at) yelled that she called the cops(who never came) and that got them to run. A few bruises and no broken bones(and still had my pay) I got up and left. I had a knife on me and would probably not be writing this if I pulled it. The only weapon I carried after that was a bic pen. Something to shock and run away. I've beaten down 2 or 3 punks before but that was the worst.
If you carry a backpack, keep a couple of cans of soup in it and swing away then run away. Just my two cents. On a side note the 10 wussies hung on the same corner every weekend ;)
In Alabama, switchblades are legal to own and carry, but they may not be carried concealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RunsWithDeer
I don't know whay you guys are so dead set against the op defending himself. If I was being mugged, yeah, I'd rather have a gun, but anything at all beats nothing. A knife, stick, a rock, whatever. I'm not a big fan of switchblades, so I'd suggest a decent folder. Just showing the knife is enough to deter most attackers. But remember, never pull a weapon unless you are willing, and ready, to use it. And to those of you who suggest running, that's crap. I was raised to defend myself and my posessions. Slicing the fingers off the 1st mugger is apt to make the other 4 hesitate. Unless you're Jessie Owens running away will just make you too tired to fight back when a group of young punks half your age decides to run you down and kick the crap out of you. If I'm going to become a statistic, it ain't gonna be because I relied on the mercy of someone who thinks he deserves my hard earned posessions more than I do. It's gonna be because I died with my knife in his belly.
I'm not sure anyone is dead set against him defending himself. Most just pointed out the legalities of having one. Pulling a knife at the wrong time and/or on the wrong guy might be the fastest way to get killed. I just hope the guy you actually pull a knife on doesn't happen to have a CCW. Otherwise, you might become a statistic for a different reason.....just sayin'.
Well, if he has a gun, I'd rather have a knife than my bare hands. I'm just sayin'. Besides, if he's mugging me, he probably doesn't have a ccw. He might have a gun, but why would he bother to get a lisence if he's gonna use it to break the law?
And "most" are wrong. It's legal to own in 29 of the 50 states. That's better than half. And it's legal to carry in 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I just meant he might have a concealed gun. My choice of verbiage was wrong. Mea culpa. We all stand corrected. Thank you.
you might be able to do so with a CCWL but according to what I have been able to find ... without a CCWL it can only be a "pocketknife or Hunting knife", if you have a Tactical knife you are going to jail if you don't have a CCWL. without a CCWL if you have a butterfly knife or switchblade.you are looking at a stay at the crossbar Hotel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighman
Look, I'm not trying to start a fight. All I'm saying is that responsibly carrying a knife - and using it for self defense if the need arises - is no different than carrying a gun. Both carry great responsibilities. Both can kill. But this crap about having the knife taken from you and used against you is just idiotic. Yea, it could happen. I could also get hit by a meteorite. Reach for my knife, and you'll be missing a few fingers. It just seems to me that some in this thread are suggesting passively standing by and relying on the bad guys mercy instead of acting to defend yourself. A gun trumps a knife, but a knife trumps knuckles and a knife is a lot easier to carry. I personally think switchblades are silly, I'd much rather have a folder which is a tool much more than a weapon, but can still be used in self defense, but if the op wants a switchblade, I say go for it, as long as it's legal in his area.
This page is circa 1998, so laws may have changed since then, but it lists every state and the legality of switchblades. As of 1998, Kentuckians are allowed to carry a switchblade as long as it is not concealed.
http://www.amatecon.com/switchblade.html
This is why it's good to read the entire thread before responding. In Post #55 Rick already posted that link.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRR
Here is my defense against an armed mugger/robber/assailant: I take my watch & wallet, throw them at him, then turn & run real hard while screaming like a girl. If I don't have a clear path of retreat then I drop to the ground, grovel, & weep like a little girl. The bad guy laughs so hard he can't quit, thereby giving the cops plenty of time to arrive & bust him! :sneaky2::innocent::cool2:
Oops. I did read the entire thread, but I didn't click any links, that's why I missed his. :blushing:
JRR - I don't entirely disagree with you. I think folks that are so inclined should defend themselves by whatever means they have available. A few points about the original post though...
An individual about to attend college with presumably no experience with using a knife for self defense (why would he ask the question if he did?)
The state in which the OP is attending school it is illegal to own a switchblade and to carry one.
Pulling a knife on a mugger may "escalate" the situation. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, but it is something to be mindful of.
Yeah, I get that, that's why I think carrying a knife is a better option than a ccw.. He's much less likely to accidentally kill someone with a knife. Carrying a gun brings with it a HUGE responsibility. A knife, a lesser one.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
And yeah, he might piss off someone who already has zero respect for him and escalate the situation. I'm just saying I would never place my eggs in the basket of an individual who thinks its okay to take my stuff by force. I'd rather pull the knife and take my chances - and I only know one thing about knife fighting - the pointy end goes into the bad guy. :)
Gotta say that I disagree with that 100%. Weapons are tools. You pick the best tool for the task at hand. In the eyes of the law, a deadly weapon is a deadly weapon. If the concern is accidently killing somebody with a handgun, then the person carrying that handgun probably has no carrying it, as they obviously have not recieved the proper training or don't have the temperment for it. In that case, they probably can't be trusted with sharp things either.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRR
I agree 100% that one should have the proper training before carrying a gun. But knives require less training than guns. Let me rephrase that. Using a knife safely requires less training than using a gun safely. You won't get the "oh, it's not loaded" accident with a knife. If you drop a knife, it's not gonna accidentally go off and kill someone. You are very unlikely to accidentally stab someone. You're not likely to mistake a boy scout for a deer, either. Now, none of the above should ever happen with a gun, but the fact is they do. That's why carrying a knife can be a safer alternative than a gun. A knife is a tool and is likely to be used many times a day for mundane tasks. And it's there to use on scum when needed as well. If you get mugged by a guy with a gun, yeah, the knife is the wrong tool for the job. But at least you'd have a tool. And if it's just some guy thinking he can push you around and you'll concede your wallet to him because he outweighs you 30 pounds, a knife can equalize the size disadvantage and teach him a lesson without blowing his head off.
Good luck with that. Hey JRR - how about an Introduction http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14 so we know something about the person giving us advice. Thanks.