Earthquake in Indiana

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Originally Posted by Hopeak

If money was not a consideration I would blow concrete on the sides.

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Wouldn't that be a swimming pool?

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Originally Posted by Rick

Wouldn't that be a swimming pool?

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Yep.......:)Moose pool.........................?

Now I have this picture of moose in deck chairs with shades on sipping margaritas. Hey, you could call it Hopeak's Hop Inn. Get it? I slay myself.

That is the camel cigarettes camel......

It woke me up, just long enough to register what it was. I lived in California for 4.5 years and had experienced a dozen small ones and one 6.5. Never had damage with those so I just wnet back to sleep when I say the amount of shake. I'm sure the sale of Earthquake insurance has gone up all over the Midwest.

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Originally Posted by Rick

Now I have this picture of moose in deck chairs with shades on sipping margaritas. Hey, you could call it Hopeak's Hop Inn. Get it? I slay myself.

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Bullwinkle!!! Long time no see! :D

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Ridge - here's my thought process, unusual as it may be.:confused: Thread started off about earthquakes.:eek: Some frivolity began to enter around post #9.:D Round about post#19 talk turned to volcanoes.:eek: Shortly after that Hopeak mentions a fear of wildfires and not being able to outrun them.:eek: You then made a post about being able to reach a lake that wasn't frozen over. OK here's the part where my mind wanders.:rolleyes: Volcanoes - Wildfires - Wildfire starts because of lava flow from volcano - Hopeak runs looking for lake to jump into to escape fire - ***drats*** lake is frozen over:mad: - along comes pyroclastic flow traveling at 60 meters a second (or 216 kilometers per hour) - flow hits frozen lake - ice melts - Hopeak jumps in and is saved - life is good.:p

OK - that's how my mind sometimes works.......besides it was getting late.

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Was late for me too... Just started a new job... frustration and not paying attention because of wanting to veg at home... you know, Sorry 'bout the 'fusion.. I got a trainer at work that thinks I don't know anything for my 57 years... and he knows everything although two years younger.. That's what I am putting up with for now. :confused: confusion, mass histeria.

No worries. Good luck with the new job.

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Originally Posted by hopeak

Ridge Wolf, I am creating a small farm in the middle of the Chugach National Forest, on 15.2 acres of private land. Because I am immersed in the (Wilds of Alaska) wilderness, if I do an 8 mile hike (4 out and 4 back) most days, then I am hardly ever more than 2 or 3 miles from home.

Bragg, I am going to build a pond this summer on the highest point of my land. How deep is your pond? I am thinking if I can get it deep enough I can stock it with fish.

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K.. let me get my confused trainer straitened out at work.. :eek:then I'll be ok.. honest. Whew!! I just want to veg for the rest of this weekend. :cool:

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

No worries. Good luck with the new job.

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:cool::D:D

One of my great great X whatever uncles was one of the first 2 Baptist preachers in Illinois. When the New Madrid quake hit he and the only other Baptist preacher in the Indiana territory were recruited to baptize folks in the New Madrid area. They spent two weeks there and baptized over 100 every day. I guess when the going gets tough you just need to get right with the skipper.:D

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Well slap me silly and call me Susie. I never knew. I swear, I never knew.

Hey, honey. Come look. God is really the skipper from Gilligan's Island.

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Ridge - here's my thought process, unusual as it may be.:confused: Thread started off about earthquakes.:eek: Some frivolity began to enter around post #9.:D Round about post#19 talk turned to volcanoes.:eek: Shortly after that Hopeak mentions a fear of wildfires and not being able to outrun them.:eek: You then made a post about being able to reach a lake that wasn't frozen over. OK here's the part where my mind wanders.:rolleyes: Volcanoes - Wildfires - Wildfire starts because of lava flow from volcano - Hopeak runs looking for lake to jump into to escape fire - ***drats*** lake is frozen over:mad: - along comes pyroclastic flow traveling at 60 meters a second (or 216 kilometers per hour) - flow hits frozen lake - ice melts - Hopeak jumps in and is saved - life is good.:p

OK - that's how my mind sometimes works.......besides it was getting late.

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If the lava hits the water near enough to melt the ice on the lake it might cook hopeak, and or kill with fumes. Some of the lava might have enough minerals to chemically make the water caustic. But hey some chance to live is better than none.

Not Hopeak. He's fast! When you wear a rubber loin cloth in the wilderness you have to be just to survive. By the way, here's a little known video of him racing a cheetah. I'm tellin' you the man is faaaaaast!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgNNH-s3t6s

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Got up this morning to see that you guys had a 5.4 earthquake (Illinois and Indiana). Not an emergency that you normally prepare for in that part of the country is it? I imagine that good general emergency planning (communications plan, bug out/in supplies) would go a long way to help in a situation like that.....and a cool head.

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Was it from the New Madrid fault?

Another quake this morning at 1:40 am.slept through this one!:eek:

Arkansas - Hmmm. It's from the Wabash Fault. There seems to be a difference of opinion in the scientific community whether the Wabash Fault is part of the New Madrid Fault or an entirely separate fault. In my uninformed opinion, I think they are all related. The Midwest sits on solid bedrock. Think of it as a table top. If you shake one corner of the table the opposite corner is going to shake with the same intensity. That's why Midwest quakes are so bad. In California, you have a fractured rock sub strata because the two continental plates are slamming into each other and the underlying bedrock breaks up.

A big quake in Illinois could be felt in New York with little problem.

Nell - I snoozed through it, too. Takes a lot to rock my world.:D

LOL,evidently,it takes a lot to rock mine as well!

It is really interesting to me the way we condition ourselves for certain situations. Those on the forum that are living in wilderness areas (Hopeak, Wildwoman, Bragg come to mind - sorry for any omissions) probably sleep soundly through the night with the sounds of bears, coyotes, etc. Those of us in more urban settings are more likely to adapt to the sounds of that type of area. I can sleep through alot. A few months ago one of our smoke detectors went off (to this day don't know why). My wife said I was standing in the hallway with a fire extinguisher in hand and the lights on almost before she got her eyes open. I guess twenty years of being around submarines and being atuned to alarms will always be with me. For the record - don't think I would have slept through an earthquake - even a minor one.

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

It is really interesting to me the way we condition ourselves for certain situations. Those on the forum that are living in wilderness areas (Hopeak, Wildwoman, Bragg come to mind - sorry for any omissions) probably sleep soundly through the night with the sounds of bears, coyotes, etc. Those of us in more urban settings are more likely to adapt to the sounds of that type of area. I can sleep through alot. A few months ago one of our smoke detectors went off (to this day don't know why). My wife said I was standing in the hallway with a fire extinguisher in hand and the lights on almost before she got her eyes open. I guess twenty years of being around submarines and being atuned to alarms will always be with me. For the record - don't think I would have slept through an earthquake - even a minor one.

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Up here we 'occationally' have an earthquake.. very occationally, although they say we are due for a big one in the PNW section I live in. We had an earth quake a couple of years ago with an epicenter only a few miles from the house here. Things shook a little but not a lot... 2 point something on the Richter... not very deep. I can walk to the epicenter.. At the time we had a water bed... and I was laying on it. Didn't get sea sick but about 15 seconds into it the blinds started moving sideways slightly and the waves started in the water bed... kind of nice being rocked in the cradle that way. I was awake at the time... and instantly knew what it was but didn't feel paniced and didn't get out of bed for it. A bigger shake?? Maybe I would have gotten out and layed down on the floor next to it... They say not to stand under doorways now but get heads down below and next to something that will take the brunt of something falling.. like furniture or a couch and get into the air pocket beside it.

Folks should take some time to learn about the New Madrid fault. It really is a fascinating piece of geology. They have found evidence of sand geysers during the 18XX earthquake. Not just little guys but deposits of sand over hundreds of acres that came spurring out of the ground like volcanoes. Some laying down dozens and dozens of feet of new sand. The Mississippi River flowed backwards for part of a day. Those of you in Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee and Illinois are the closest but the rest of us have to worry about it too.

http://rockhoundingar.com/geology/fault.html

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Originally Posted by Rick

Folks should take some time to learn about the New Madrid fault. It really is a fascinating piece of geology. They have found evidence of sand geysers during the 18XX earthquake. Not just little guys but deposits of sand over hundreds of acres that came spurring out of the ground like volcanoes. Some laying down dozens and dozens of feet of new sand. The Mississippi River flowed backwards for part of a day. Those of you in Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee and Illinois are the closest but the rest of us have to worry about it too.

http://rockhoundingar.com/geology/fault.html

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Rick, I read your link... That article said that those sand volcanoes are still visible. Where on Google Earth would I be able to see those? You're in that area and I thought you would know more about where to look than I.

Since I live in a seismically active zone.. Portland/Vancouver area, I am always interested in earthquakes... although we haven't had a big one, of the magnitude mentioned in that article in a lot of years. I monitor a few earthquake related websites because of that. Thanks for the link I bookmarked that. :D

Btw... I am also interested in other types and all types of natural disaster preparedness and survival.

Ridge - You asked a very good question. That's something I had never tried. Here's a site complete with Google Earth images. This is down in the boothill of Missouri. You can find it by the intersection of US 412 and I 55 on Google Earth. To my untrained eye, I don't see it but it's obviously there. Too much farmland for my eye. This site calls it the largest sand blow in the world.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3DYYf%26sa%3DN

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Originally Posted by Rick

Ridge - You asked a very good question. That's something I had never tried. Here's a site complete with Google Earth images. This is down in the boothill of Missouri. You can find it by the intersection of US 412 and I 55 on Google Earth. To my untrained eye, I don't see it but it's obviously there. Too much farmland for my eye. This site calls it the largest sand blow in the world.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3DYYf%26sa%3DN

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Rick, Thanks for the link... there are a lot of sand blows in those pictures.. they are the beige spots in the landscape... like ocean beach sand. More pronounced on the farm land rather than the landscaped areas..

I learned about the New Madrid fault when I almost fell off my bed last Friday. :eek:

Welcome to the forum, diggler. How about shaking over to the Introduction thread and tell a little about yourself.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14

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