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    Everything I've seen on the possibilities of an eruption of Mt. Rainier are scarey. One show on Nat Geo kind of made it look like Mt. St. Helens would look like a birthday candle by comparrison.
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    What I am freaked about is wild fire. I can hike 4 to 4.5 miles per hour, but I can not RUN 70 to 90 miles per hour. Maybe I need a spider hole under the new barn...???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Frankly, Mt. Rainier scares me to death. I've seen the data on the pyroclastic flows, tephra and the lahars generated by Mt. Rainier in the past and another event would be truly catastrophic in terms of human life. Seattle and Tacoma would have a big bulls eye on them.
    Have you ever been to Auburn WA.? I agree that mountain is really close to civilization it is as big as in your face can get when you're up there in the area.

    I am waiting for Mt. Hood to go... There is an active steam vent near the top where skiers go to warm up.... and they say that Hood is extinct?? Hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeak View Post
    What I am freaked about is wild fire. I can hike 4 to 4.5 miles per hour, but I can not RUN 70 to 90 miles per hour. Maybe I need a spider hole under the new barn...???
    Make sure there is a lake that isn't frozen over within reach .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge Wolf View Post
    Make sure there is a lake that isn't frozen over within reach .
    No worries - the pyroclastic flow will melt the ice pretty quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeak View Post
    What I am freaked about is wild fire. I can hike 4 to 4.5 miles per hour, but I can not RUN 70 to 90 miles per hour. Maybe I need a spider hole under the new barn...???
    Not a bad idea hopeak, especially if you dont have a lake, river or pond nearby. Oh wait, I forgot you were in AK. Hypothermia kills just as quick.

    Build the spider hole.

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    Bragg, did you build a drain onto your pond???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeak View Post
    Bragg, did you build a drain onto your pond???

    No, I did need to put a surface overflow in a couple years after I built the dugout. It rained for two and ahalf weeks straight and water came within a few feet of the house. I had four large Honda pumps going around the clock to keep the water back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraggSurvivor View Post
    No, I did need to put a surface overflow in a couple years after I built the dugout. It rained for two and ahalf weeks straight and water came within a few feet of the house. I had four large Honda pumps going around the clock to keep the water back.
    DID you concrete the overflow...???? have any photo's of the overflow..???

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    No, I just put in a 6" pvc pipe and ran it at the level I wanted the pond at. I screened the end to keep it from plugging but still have to clean it often.

    By the end of August the water in my dugout really starts to drop. The natural spring cant keep up with the amout of water lost due to evaporation. Yesterday I bought a used trenching machine and I am going to pipe water in from a higher creek about a 1/2 mile away. I will start the flow with a pump and hopefully it will continue to gravity feed. I spent the morning using a GPS to check elevations. Should be a go as soon as the frost leaves the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    No worries - the pyroclastic flow will melt the ice pretty quick.
    In a forest fire???

    Of course, Hopeak can hang around his barn all the time and wait for a forest fire and then crawl into the spider hole... What about if he is out in the wilds of AK?

    Maybe I missed the point. I thought he was freaked out due to forest fires.
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    Ridge, Ridge, Ridge. Must we explain everything? Hopeak likes bear dens or bare dens. Where he lives it doesn't really matter unless you use the latter and a bear winks at you. Then you might have a problem.

    Bragg - I would really like to listen to the conversation when you explain to your insurance agent that, yes, you built the pond and, yes, it flooded your house. Unless they consider you a god then it can't be considered an act of god no matter how much it rains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge Wolf View Post
    In a forest fire???

    Of course, Hopeak can hang around his barn all the time and wait for a forest fire and then crawl into the spider hole... What about if he is out in the wilds of AK?

    Maybe I missed the point. I thought he was freaked out due to forest fires.
    Ridge - here's my thought process, unusual as it may be. Thread started off about earthquakes. Some frivolity began to enter around post #9. Round about post#19 talk turned to volcanoes. Shortly after that Hopeak mentions a fear of wildfires and not being able to outrun them. You then made a post about being able to reach a lake that wasn't frozen over. OK here's the part where my mind wanders. Volcanoes - Wildfires - Wildfire starts because of lava flow from volcano - Hopeak runs looking for lake to jump into to escape fire - ***drats*** lake is frozen over - along comes pyroclastic flow traveling at 60 meters a second (or 216 kilometers per hour) - flow hits frozen lake - ice melts - Hopeak jumps in and is saved - life is good.

    OK - that's how my mind sometimes works.......besides it was getting late.
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    Bragg - I would really like to listen to the conversation when you explain to your insurance agent that, yes, you built the pond and, yes, it flooded your house. Unless they consider you a god then it can't be considered an act of god no matter how much it rains.
    It was a very scarey time and insurance was the last thing I thought about.. I guesstimate the dugout holds roughly 100000 gallons of water. I never in my wildest imagination thought it would rise as fast as it did. Ive since put in a overflow and relandscaped to formed a burm to keep the water away from the house and outbuilding.

    During that month of rain, about 40% of basements around here flooded (mine never) and the only bridge over the Bow River to town was shut down. They were evacuating people but most of us stayed on this side of the river stayed to tough it out. No one would leave their animals. I'm safe because of elevation but alot of people live along the river. One of my buddies on the river lost 18' of his back yard.

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    Crash - You left out the part about Hopeak using his 100' of shoe laces to get out of the lake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge Wolf View Post
    In a forest fire???

    Of course, Hopeak can hang around his barn all the time and wait for a forest fire and then crawl into the spider hole... What about if he is out in the wilds of AK?

    Maybe I missed the point. I thought he was freaked out due to forest fires.

    Ridge Wolf, I am creating a small farm in the middle of the Chugach National Forest, on 15.2 acres of private land. Because I am immersed in the (Wilds of Alaska) wilderness, if I do an 8 mile hike (4 out and 4 back) most days, then I am hardly ever more than 2 or 3 miles from home.

    Bragg, I am going to build a pond this summer on the highest point of my land. How deep is your pond? I am thinking if I can get it deep enough I can stock it with fish.
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    When I built it, I went 18' deep sloping to 0'. At the deepest point now it is about 15-16' deep. If I did it again, I would have went 20-22' ans had it settle to 18'.

    What kind of substrate do you have there? Clay? Rocky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bragg Survivor View Post
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    What kind of substrate do you have there? Clay? Rocky?
    Bragg, It is a Nightmare: I have clay, and or pit run gravel, and or sand, and or bedrock, And very little top soil (Over burden). I will not know what that site has till we start digging. The good news is that the ground water runs on top of the bedrock, and I have two creeks very near where I want to build the pond.

    Yes, Damning the creeks is the easy way. But the greenie's would have me in bankruptcy yet again, so I "AIN'T" going there. I am too old to fight anymore 20 year battles.

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    I thought you might have sand, gravel substrate. There is a cloth you can line your pond with, it allows ground water to seap up but hold water from going through the cloth. Moose also cant puncture the fabric if he decides to go for a swim. I didnt need it here as there is a very deep clay layer, but down in the valley people have had to use it. Without the fabric, it's MT within a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraggSurvivor View Post
    I thought you might have sand, gravel substrate. There is a cloth you can line your pond with, it allows ground water to seap up but hold water from going through the cloth. Moose also cant puncture the fabric if he decides to go for a swim. I didnt need it here as there is a very deep clay layer, but down in the valley people have had to use it. Without the fabric, it's MT within a few days.
    I have some super heavy woven Typar we use for road building, I was going to but that down and put pit run on the bottom and shot rock up the sides.

    If money was not a consideration I would blow concrete on the sides.

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