You know that I don't agree with that. People should be able to eat, drink and smoke what they want.....BUT...they are responsible for themselves, and their actions!Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
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You know that I don't agree with that. People should be able to eat, drink and smoke what they want.....BUT...they are responsible for themselves, and their actions!Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
Yes, in a perfect world. But until then I'm not paying for it!
As a side note...
..I'd trade Justin, for $100 worth of groceries. LOL:oops:
Canid, I was just commenting on the article. The original article said only one full auto was recovered.
While the intent may be good, I think the effort is misguided.
1. Returned guns could be stolen and never returned to the owner (as mentioned)
2. No criminal check is made of those returning weapons so there are no stats on how many criminals are returning weapons. If you had a felony conviction would you walk up to a cop and hand them a gun? Especially if you were on parole? I don't think so.
3. If they have a weapon and need food they can sell the weapon directly on the black market and still get as much or more for cash or probably in food stamps or drugs.
4. How does one prove the weapons recovered would have been used in crimes? One could just as easily say they wouldn't have been. Neither camp can prove their belief.
Getting back to the original question, would I trade guns for groceries, short answer, No, unless I was really hungry.
Trade in programs, I don't agree with, usually a public relation "feel good" program that doesn't really have much to do with actually "getting guns off the streets", especially using taxpayers money.
All the reasons given above are valued, to a point, I'm sure little old ladies have gotten taken, and maybe a gang-banger's momma, turned in her kids gun, to keep him outta trouble.
But in the big picture, not a effective way of cutting down crime, IMHO.
We can legally sell firearms privately in Wisconsin, so I watch the paper, close.
I get called from time to time to assist in the sale of "little old ladies DH's guns and try to be fair.
So let me get this straight...... the police buy the guns, no questions asked and then what? Do they check to see if they are stolen? used in a crime? If not, then aren't the police aiding and abetting criminals???
Well I personally think that the "buy-back" program is a great idea & I'm starting my own. 50 bucks for a pistol, rifle, or shotgun, & 100 bucks for an assault weapon. :yes:
I'm personally looking for a 1911 .45 & a Ruger Mini Ranch Rifle with a several extra clips.....:D
any takers? :scared:
LOL, Way to go Sarge, tell it like it is......Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Thats kinda what I was trying to imply, with out really coming right out with it.......
I serve on the Sheriff's Advisory Council. When they were getting ready to do a buy back I asked our districts assistant chief if it was legal for me to set up a block away and offer $25 more for select guns. While he never told me that there was anything illegal about it, I could tell that he would take a dim view of it and due to no open carry laws in FL, and my purchases would be taking place on public property........now I've got to find a local home owner that will "rent" me some space.
We actually have people advertising for old guns in the local paper, so I don't see why you couldn't do it.
Not under this scenario I would not. But, I in fact have essentially traded guns for groceries in the past. Of course I sold them and then used the money to buy food, gas and pay rent.
Guns can get you food, but unless you're a crook they can't put a roof over your head or gas in your car. I regret every day letting them go and it's been many years now, but they were doing me no good just sitting there collecting dust. The only ones I kept were what my Dad left me for centimental value, which was more valuable to me at the time so I kept them.
I gave up my Mossy 500 12 ga., Winchester break action 20 ga., Wichester lever 30-30, Ruger 10/22 and CVA .50 cal. sidelock for a month or two's living expenses. I would liked to have kept the lever action and .20 ga. as they were gifts, but a gift does me no good if I'm facing car repossesion, homelessness and hunger.
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Originally Posted by Justin Case
Buying them wouldn't be a problem. Buying them on a street corner might garner some undue attention.
Set up right next to 'em.
Citizen: "Can I get $50 for this pistol?"
Cop: "That's right ma'am."
Crash: "I'll make it $60."
Cop: "What? No. I'll go $65."
Crash: "70."
Cop: "What the...? 75."
Crash: "80"
Citizen: "Is this a great country or what?"
Guys and gals. The pro's and con's could be dicussed for hours and hours, even days and weeks with neither side of the argument changing anything on the other side. I wish only to state my feeling then I'll sit the rest of the discussion out.
The original ?? being. Would I trade my guns for groceries? NO WAY.
Oldtrap
...another idiot feel good program. Will they ever get it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Case
I've got an old wore out RG 22 cal that i picked up for 20bucks at a flea market , they can have that one for 50 bucks.
To answer the OP's original thread question: "Would I trade my guns for groceries?" Absolutely not! I can use my guns to hunt my groceries. However I would trade groceries for guns! What can I get for this can of Lima Beans? :cowboy:
charalton hestin said it best, when they pry it from cold dead fingers, the only way they will get mine.
Still waiting on that intro dude. :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by revaredneck
"Would you trade your guns for groceries?" Nope,... Because when the SHTF my gun will get me all the groceries I care to take :). I know, I know...that's a pretty crappy way to look at things but it's a fact. Would I trade a gun for food in a "non" time of crisis?....You're kidding right?
They are doing it again,,,,, http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/...yback-program/
Everywhere ! http://www.google.com/search?q=gun+b...ient=firefox-a
Let's see.....$200, huh. My Mosins cost 78 and my Raven Arms .25 cost $40. Well, before the great canoe accident of 2010. I wonder what they'd do if I pulled up with a semi load of Mosins and Raven Arms.
I have some guns that I would trade for "SEX".
I don't need another gun that bad but thanks for the offer.
There's a joke in there about the government, but since we don't discuss politics, I guess I'll let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sourdough
First off I don't agree with "buy back" programs but yes they are run through NCIC, the ATF, and the NIBIN system to check for possible use in crimes. They are then destroyed or forfieted to the agency for department use such as being issued to Reserve units or training for example. They could also be traded in by the department to gun manufacturers such as Sig Sauer or Glock for a discount on new issued weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
They were showing it on the news last night,,, they showed a few AR15's, a couple mini 14's and trash cans full of shot guns, rifles and hand guns,, there was a huge line of cars waiting to unload and get their 100 or 200 hundred dollar card...
This is an unusual coincidence,my Grandfather traded groceries for an Oxford Arms 20 gauge SxS,during the Great Depression and I still have it,the forearm wood is split and the end of the barrels are tissue thin,sign of the times?
Some criminals are stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Don't need to have an FFL to buy or sell guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Case
I have an old sat nite special .22 that I nwould trade in for $200 bucks..........It's a revolver that kinda stops where it feels like, doesbn't have anything to do with "indexing".........Where do I take it?????
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