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Starting last night, it seems that some militia groups may be the Targets. Some Militia sites have "Gone down" due to "servers down". Not much that is being said on the National news agencies. However the local stations are trying to report it. Right now it seems to be just Michigan and Ohio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyak-...layer_embedded
I've heard reported (with almost no details) on TV. It is not unsual for small local news agencies to pick up stories like this before the big guys. These types of operations by law enforcement are not broadcast in advance (well, unless......ah heck, nevermind) so the local folks, where the operations are taking place will typically find out first. Once they report things, then others will pick up on the story.
It is apparently all over the web. From the site I found this at, there are several other Forums :innocent: reporting this. Some of which I had never heard of. One report says Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana. So it seems to be fairly large.
While I am a supporter of the individuals rights, and right to bear arms. If these are in fact militia groups, then they are apparently one of the fringe groups. And they are a real danger. I did notice one comment on the You Tube presentation, stating that Militias were not Terrorist organizations, and I would agree to that in most circumstances. However any group that advocates altering or influencing a government or group of people by violence, threat of violence or intimidation is in fact and by definition a terrorist organization. It will be interesting to see how this developes
Agreed. I say the street gangs would also fall into this category, and break more laws, but the FBI isn't raiding them??Quote:
Originally Posted by Pal334
Apparently it has been picked up by FOX now.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/28...ivity-midwest/
Around here, they are hammering them pretty hard ( I guess it is a matter of local priorities). But I agree with you, both are a real problem, just "stylized" punks. But I do want to make sure that it is understood that with militias, I am referring to the ones that are going over the edge and not the peaceful groups (which seem to be the majority)Quote:
Originally Posted by pocomoonskyeyes
I just think that some of these gangs like MS13 (16?) are International, not a bunch of "Local Bullies". I just think that they would be a MUCH higher Priority due to the International aspect.
All that these stories say is that "people have been arrested." They don't say why, or who, or how many. Seems like jumping to conclusions to me.
I'm sure glad I have no weapons or ammunition of any kind. I need to log off now. I have to go press and fold the American flag.
Aparantly one of the raids was conducted on a group that calls themselves Hutaree. I will not provide a link (nor should anybody else). They are easy to find on google. I spent some time reading their forum and viewing their videos. If this group is typical of what the feds are targeting - I say well done! What took you so long?
Tacmedic
All that these stories say is that "people have been arrested." They don't say why, or who, or how many. Seems like jumping to conclusions to me.
Did we read the same articles?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/28...ivity-midwest/
Arrests Made in Alleged Militia Activity in Midwest
http://www.wxyz.com/news/story/Massi...MUdtOLzvw.cspx
raids around Adrian that may be connected to a militia group.
Well, I don't like any law passed lately. I have a strong dislike for the majority of our fine leaders from the top down to the local mayor. If I was more ambitious I guess I would find a firearm somewhere and be a militia of one.
If you look at the video on their website one thing strikes me. They are all outfitted the same, using what appears to be automatic weapons and tossing a lot of smoke grenades. That equates to a lot of coins. One has to conclude that they are pretty well funded. You can't help but wonder how far reaching their organization really is.
What I have been able to find out( on the web) about them thus far reinforces my first reaction. A "private army" such as this has no place in our society. Preparedness is one thing, this is another animal entirely.
It just proves that fanatical Muslims aren't the only folks we need to worry about. I guess they threatened Muslims and that's what got the plugged pulled on them. Just what I've read.
I'm all for protecting my turf but there has to be a line you don't cross. The truly scary part to me is there is a lot of "stuff" going on right now and it ranges all across the board. From tea parties to militia. It's clear Americans are tired of today's America and want their country back. At least that's the way it looks to me.
Looking at their forum I could see zero difference between them and radical Islamists.
A lot of us are tired of what's going on but it's the loonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rick
that take it to an extreme.
Nor do they seem to have any tolerance for anyone that does not agree with them. That "just ain't right" and it is not the country I served for so many yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
You are so right. Extremes of any sort just loses supporters and draws other "dead enders"Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
I woudnt dare to look up there forum, and thanks for your input.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
You could always blame it on your http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sleep027.gif. :innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by oly
You've been waiting to use that haven't you?
Yes. :blushing:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Why not? They have probably had more traffic today than they have had in the last year!! This story is all over the web. Lots of places are talking about it. Where I saw this story originally there are 3 separate threads/posts/whatever about just this!!Quote:
Originally Posted by oly
Something is wrong here.
The site shows poorly trained knuckleheads that make perfect political fodder. And I don't like religious groups at all. Yeah, that is right I don't like yours any better than the next guys. But, I respect your right to your opinion as well as the next guys.
Any way, I want to know that this is not diversionary in nature and not another Waco or Ruby Ridge.
For anyone who has decided that their god has given them the right to kill in its name. I got a warm place at the end of my barrel in your gods name and I would be pleased for you to take his place. Allah Akbar, Jesus is great, Jehovah is god or what ever flavor you like.
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Originally Posted by Batch
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Sorry Ken,
I love Bacon! God! i love Bacon! :tongue_smilie:
PI$$ED ME OFF! colonial christian republic??? CCR??? It's on their website! Don't mess with what CCR stands for when one of John Fogerty's biggest fans is as well arm....no wait, I don't have any firearms, (never mind).
It was interesting that when I googled the "h" word for a little education on these folks that headlines were dropping in faster than I could click on them, looks like they've made the news alright.
What always seems weird to me is how many people really get extreme about what the heck ever and really should so often be the ones who are most grateful for where they live and what they have in life
The problem with all of this is that many are dubbing them "tea party members" and using this as a reason to limit gun ownership. Now, don't get me wrong, I HATE government especially BIG government and will die defending our freedoms. However that being said, I in no way condone a planned attack against law enforcement or certain members of congress. It really does get you nowhere. The problem is that this kind of puts a bad light on those of us who understand what it MEANS to be prepared.
Because we gather as a group either on the web or in real life from time to time, discuss current events and own guns and/or knives...does the current Homeland Security staff see US as an "illegal militia?" Where is that line? Are we paying taxes for the people that are supposed to be protecting us to SPY on people like US?
I think this particular situation made it harder for us to protect ourselves and our homes, and it makes me angry.
THAT'S JUST MESSED UP!! Not YOU, oly...but the fact that we don't feel SAFE going to see what they're about, because we may make ourselves a target! How messed up is that???? RRRRRRRR!! That REALLY makes me angry. If I go read up on the SS or Hitler am I a threat? It's education for crying out loud. LEARN about these things so they may never happen again. Why would that now make us a target? Ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by oly
FOX is saying that they were planning on killing LEO's,and then ambush officers attending the Funeral(s). They have been under investigation since August 2008.
Well, if that's really what they were planning that just makes them a bunch of rhymes with runts.Quote:
Originally Posted by pocomoonskyeyes
It certainly doesn't make them a "militia".
I had a bit of a rant session about it on my blog...I was a bit ticked off by it. LOL!:sneaky2:
really? I couldn't tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trabitha
There are more of these people than you know. I used to post on MySpace on survival topics, mostly self reliance and had over 4000 "friends". Half of them were militia types. I think most of them are gun nuts not true patriots or really interested in topics of survival, it was just part of thier fantasy. It's justification to play with guns for most of them. They will be nuisence making things worse but thier ideas are so unrealistic most are just clowns and pose no serious threat. I had heard about many people that were be investigated for posts they had made and even some arrests. I try to be more selective as to who I associate myself with online these days. I think politcal and religious statements are being screened with the same scrutiny.
I agree AS, but too often the "harmless" ones become a lot less so when some really charismatic zealot comes along and leads them into who-knows-what (Charlie Manson, Adolf Hitler..et al) I'm just posing the question here...
I have to say extremism of any kind is just harmful to everyone. Once you start messing with explosives, a little bit of FBI action is what is needed...
Boethius 480-525 A.D. was a believer of neither extreme good nor extreme evil, but balanced virtue. One could not be happy being rich or poor...etc.
"To attain perfect virtue one must trod the middle of the road."
Here is a little tidbit I had to share...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-..._b_517031.html
Nevermind the liberal source, the writer is a good writer...