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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    With almost 600 posts on the topic in about 23 months, sadly I fear that the answer will be no. Nice thought though.
    well, thats fine.....obviously les wins....look at the polls. His off the grid thing makes me wanna buy land in Canada though. Bear is still a better show by ratings, probably why he gets another season. How about them Cowboys huh?


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    The unfortunate news Bear fell in the Antarctic while filming a show and is now in the UK (I think) for assessement and rehab (broken shoulder and such), I wish him well but it had to catch up with him.
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    Please allow me to reiterate.

    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    It is good that the two shows have encouraged some folk to learn about survival. However. There are to many times on those programs where the techniques they use could kill you as apposed to saving you. Don't forget Bear is an accomplished mountaineer/climber. Trying to do some of his stunts without his skill is worse then a bad idea. For example, venturing into a glacial ice cave, climbing a waterfall or as Les did placing his camp on a river sandbar when its raining in the mountains above him. I would suggest viewing the programs as entertainment only and investing in some real world practical survival training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsitenha View Post
    The unfortunate news Bear fell in the Antarctic while filming a show and is now in the UK (I think) for assessement and rehab (broken shoulder and such), I wish him well but it had to catch up with him.
    Wonder if they'll air that show? Didn't he almost die in a rock climbing accident or mountain hike before he started the show? I watch both shows mainly for entertainment. I still think Les is more realistic with the scenarios though. And I liked his book, very informative.
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    Apparently the show was not for Discovery but an alternative fuel company. The weather was not good but chances were taken.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsitenha View Post
    The unfortunate news Bear fell in the Antarctic while filming a show and is now in the UK (I think) for assessement and rehab (broken shoulder and such), I wish him well but it had to catch up with him.
    Good thing he had his crew with him....he might not have survived.
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    Klkak is right the shows are entertainment value, even this season (not yet aired in Kanata) shows some suspect firearm practices??? So as in all TV a grain (or two) of salt needs to be taken along with a good reality check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug1980 View Post
    Wonder if they'll air that show? Didn't he almost die in a rock climbing accident or mountain hike before he started the show? I watch both shows mainly for entertainment. I still think Les is more realistic with the scenarios though. And I liked his book, very informative.
    Hey doug, you wanna get together and try out your new survival kit next week? You know like a winter camping trip...,
    1. If it's in your kit and you don't know how to use it....It's useless.
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    He would not have, definately, busted shoulder and all tissue damge was extensive. Also had a hard time evacuating him it took a few days because of weather problems. A very close brush with death. Maybe this will tone things down a bit if he comes back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsitenha View Post
    He would not have, definitely, busted shoulder and all tissue damage was extensive. Also had a hard time evacuating him it took a few days because of weather problems. A very close brush with death. Maybe this will tone things down a bit he he come back.
    I don't know. He broke his back jumping out of an airplane or so he says and it ain't stopped him from doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    Hey doug, you wanna get together and try out your new survival kit next week? You know like a winter camping trip...,
    When were you thinking? I'm working 13 days straight, worked all this week, working all weekend, all next week and next Saturday. I'm off Sunday then back at it. We might be able to squeeze it in sometime.
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    Read a 5 question interview with Bear in the latest Outside Magazine. When asked about the gross stuff (eating poo) he implied that it was all for the ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug1980 View Post
    When were you thinking? I'm working 13 days straight, worked all this week, working all weekend, all next week and next Saturday. I'm off Sunday then back at it. We might be able to squeeze it in sometime.
    Let me know when you have at least 2 days off in a row. Preferably when its above -0-.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    Let me know when you have at least 2 days off in a row. Preferably when its above -0-.
    2 days off is easy enough, above 0 I'm not so sure of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug1980 View Post
    2 days off is easy enough, above 0 I'm not so sure of.
    We should really do this. Take some good pictures to share with the folks here. I have a place in mind out at Knik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    We should really do this. Take some good pictures to share with the folks here. I have a place in mind out at Knik.
    I'm down for it. Maybe the weekend of the 24th we could. It sould be a little warmer. You wanna do an actual camping type trip but practice primitive ways to do things, set some snares and such?
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    Looking forward to the pics guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug1980 View Post
    I'm down for it. Maybe the weekend of the 24th we could. It sould be a little warmer. You wanna do an actual camping type trip but practice primitive ways to do things, set some snares and such?
    That sounds like a great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    That sounds like a great idea.
    I haven't been camping in years. It's gonna be so cold. But fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougz View Post
    If you watch more of the Survivorman show, you'll see Les spends a week or more with the natives or local survival experts before heading out..



    Les often does have the bare essentials..

    Sometimes even a gun, or an ax, which really WOULD be must haves in that particular region (the Arctic, etc)..

    And he ALWAYS has a multi-tool on him..
    the few episodes I have seen of both shows I cant remember either having more than a knife and sometimes a fire starter of some sort.
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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