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    Well - found this (can't verify it's accuracy) that supports Klkak, Hope and others that say no to the 22 rimfire. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8224138AAHjM1u
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    For some reason that link won't load for me. All you guys have to do is go back to the original copy and paste from the Wisconsin rule book and read it slowly out loud, it's in plain English,

    No air, rim, or centerfire less than .22 means that a centerfire or rim of .22 or bigger is perfectly fine to use.

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    Here it is straight outta the Wisconson hunting regs for rifles read it and take it for exactly what it says do not read into it.
    Rifles:
    • Must have an overall 26” minimum length with 16” minimum barrel length.
    • Are legal for hunting deer in areas not restricted to shotguns, muzzleloaders and handguns only as indicated by the maps on page 13.
    • It is illegal to possess any rimfire rifle larger than .22 caliber or any center-fire rifle .22 caliber or larger during any gun deer season in shotgun only areas unless it is unloaded and enclosed within a carrying case.



    Note: Rifled barreled shotguns and muzzleloaders are not considered rifl es for purpose of hunting deer.
    • It is illegal to hunt deer with any air rifle, rimfire rifle, or any center-fire rifle less than .22 caliber.

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    Cannonman, you seem like a nice guy, I think the warden misspoke, or something, I don't know. But the wording is word for word, same as Alaska's. And this was one of the questions on the Assistant Guide Test, that we created years ago. It is not personal, and I am sorry. But no rimfire, means no rimfire. And if I am wrong I will make a new thread and state clearly Hopeak was WRONG.

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    I just sent the following email to the Wisconsin DNR.

    Mr. Loomans,

    I am a member of an on-line forum.

    There is an on going discussion concerning firearms for hunting. One of the other members states that it is legal to use a .22 magnum rim fire to hunt deer in Wisconsin.

    After reading the on-line regulations several of us believe it is not a legal practice.

    We try to provide helpful, accurate information on the forum.

    Could you please provide me with your understanding of the law as it applies to deer hunting in Wisconsin.

    I thank you in advance for taking the time to help with this matter.
    I will post his reply when I receive it.
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    No you can't use a .22 rimfire.
    There is no greater solitude than that of the Tracker in the forest, unless perhaps it's that of the wolf in the wilderness.

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    Look, I'm the new guy here and don't want to cause a bunch of problems. I gave you the number to call. Please do. I'll come back on here tomorrow. The DNR agent who gave the talk has been working this county for a long long time, Warden Miller. He hands out more tickets than anybody I know and follows the rules to the T.
    You're just reading only part of it, you're reading it's illegal to use a rimfire. That's it... but that's not it. Notice after rimfire there is a comma and then centerfire? By the way you're reading it that would make all centerfire rifles illegal as well...

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    Wow, klkak you sure know how to stir up trouble.........And then leave......

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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    I just sent the following email to the Wisconsin DNR.


    I will post his reply when I receive it.
    That will work. Where did you find an email for the DNR? I couldn't find one?

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    I'ma call tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf65 View Post
    No you can't use a .22 rimfire.
    This is for anybody who wants to sign up. I will bet one ounce of pure silver bullion. If I'm wrong I'll send it to you and if I'm right you find one to send to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonman17 View Post
    Look, I'm the new guy here and don't want to cause a bunch of problems. I gave you the number to call. Please do. I'll come back on here tomorrow. The DNR agent who gave the talk has been working this county for a long long time, Warden Miller. He hands out more tickets than anybody I know and follows the rules to the T.
    You're just reading only part of it, you're reading it's illegal to use a rimfire. That's it... but that's not it. Notice after rimfire there is a comma and then centerfire? By the way you're reading it that would make all centerfire rifles illegal as well...

    No ONLY centerfire sub .22 as in .17 caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf65 View Post
    I'ma call tomorrow.
    I think the call to the DNR office would be best myself but no way to prove to the skeptics what is said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeak View Post
    No ONLY centerfire sub .22 as in .17 caliber.
    How are you getting that to apply to one but not the other? They are listed together... It is illegal to use any rimfire or centerfire less than .22 in caliber.

    Okay, I'm done with this subject until tomorrow. Perhaps I will have to eat my words and ship out some silver. Perhaps I will be getting some for christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonman17 View Post
    This is for anybody who wants to sign up. I will bet one ounce of pure silver bullion. If I'm wrong I'll send it to you and if I'm right you find one to send to me.

    Your on, I accept.

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    I would have gone up to $250,000.- There is NO question for me, what it means.

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    Cannonman, I admire you for NOT backing down on what you understand to be correct.

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    I'ma call and ask if you can use a .22 rimfire to hunt deer, I really don't care so why would I lie about it, not saying either is wrong but I will say in a survival situation I'd shoot a deer with a frig'n rubber band gun if it'd kill his azz and I could eat him so's I don't starve to death.
    BTW I don't bet, so sorry. I will post what I am told though take it or leave it.
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    I would not have gone up to 250,000 because my father always told me 1) don't gamble, 2) If you do, make sure you have enough to cover the bet no matter how sure you are that you're going to win.

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