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    My church is doing an "Emergency Preparedness Fair" this Saturday. They asked the scouts to set up a booth and talk about water storage and purification. I made a flier to pass out that has info on these two topics. I was just wondering if I missed anything. I mostly want this to be simple, fit on a page, and make people want to do further research on their own for more specifics. Grammar checks are also welcome.

    Here is what I have so far:

    Water Purification

    Contaminant--- Effective Purification Method
    Bacteria--- RO, distillation, UV, 0.3 micron pore size, boiling, chlorine dioxide, iodine, chlorine
    Virus --- RO, distillation, UV, .02 micron pore size, boiling, chlorine dioxide, iodine, chlorine
    Protozoa--- RO, distillation, UV, 1 micron pore size, boiling, chlorine dioxide
    Chemicals-- RO, distillation, carbon absorption
    Salt--- RO, distillation

    Methods of purification

    Reverse Osmosis (RO) - Water is forced through a semi-permeable membrane. The pore size is approximately 0.0001 microns. This method eliminates almost anything in the water. This requires a lot of pressure. All versions are very expensive.

    Distillation- Water is generally vaporized, and the vapor is collected and condensed back into water. For the most part, distilling eliminates anything in the water. It can't eliminate something with the same vapor pressure, but this is rare. Special equipment is needed, but the cost is not as much as RO, and a make shift setup is easy to make.

    Chemical treatments -iodine, bleach, chlorine dioxide, sodium dichloroisocyanurate etc. Chemical treatments are only effective against the living organism contaminants. It is not effective against other harmful chemicals, or salt water. Iodine should not be used by pregnant women, children, people with thyroid problems, or people with iodine allergies. Iodine should not be used for extended periods. Iodine is shown to be NOT effective against cryptosporidium. Chlorine bleach is also shown to be NOT effective against cryptosporidium. Chlorine Dioxide is effective against all living organism. Sodium dichloroisocyanurate is better for large batches (gallons) of treatment at one time.

    Boiling- Boiling is effective against all living organism. The water only needs to reach a rolling boil to be considered sterile. Boiling does not remove chemicals, or make the chemicals ineffective. It also does not remove salt.

    Ultraviolet Light (UV)- UV light is used to kill all organisms. It is effective against living organisms, as long as the water has a high clarity. Debris in the water will block the light and degrade effectiveness.

    Carbon Absorption- Activated carbon is used to absorb chemicals in the flow stream. Carbon has a limited capacity to store these chemicals, and is only effective against certain chemicals. It does not remove living organisms. It also does not remove salt.

    Filtering- Filtering passes water through something that has a specific size of opening. The pore size can vary depending on what type of filter is used. Since viruses, bacteria and protozoa are all different sizes, the size of the pores will determine which organism it is effective against. Filters are not effective against chemicals, or salt. Most backcountry water in the US only presents a threat of protozoa and bacteria.

    Recommended filter buying advice-

    -Look for filters with a known history. Search the internet for reviews of the filter. This generally reveals problems or concerns you might not have thought about.
    -Look for filters that can be unclogged without having to buy a new filter element. The last thing you want is to be out in the middle of nowhere with a clogged filter.
    -Compare filter cartridge replacement costs. This includes how often the cartridge needs to be changed
    -Look at pore size. The smaller the pore size, the better, but it also flows slower. If it doesn't tell you the pore size, look elsewhere.
    -Currently, my recommended filter is the Sawyer Point One. Walmart sells it for $29. Filters sold by MSR and Katadyn are also great. For home use, look at Berkey filters. Sawyer also sells a filter with a .02 pore size that can filter out viruses. As far as I know, it is the only filter on the market that can filter viruses.

    Water Storage

    Why store water?

    Water is one of the most important things we need to survive, apart from air and shelter. Water is more important than food. You don't need a major disaster to need water storage. It can be as simple as the local supply is contaminated or water line broken.

    How much do you need?

    Studies have shown that 2 gallons per day per person is about minimum for cooking and consumption. This excludes personal hygiene.

    Best way to store water

    Water doesn't "go bad" over time. It is always water. However, if stored improperly, organisms can grow in the water, making it unsafe to drink. The best way to combat this is to store water in a cool, dark place that inhibits growth. Rotation is also good. You can also pre-treat the water with chemicals. A post water purification treatment will also work.

    Containers

    Plastic containers- Make sure container is food grade. Do not use containers that stored chemicals or other products. The plastic can absorb the chemicals, and then leach them into the water.

    Glass containers- Makes the best container without any chance of chemical leaching. Also cheap. However, heavy, and prone to breakage.

    Stainless Steel containers- Not good for storage with chlorine.

    Container size

    Large containers are more space efficient. They are also more cost efficient when comparing $/gallon. However, they are more of an initial purchase. Also, the larger the container, the harder it is to rotate and carry.

    Small containers are easier to carry and rotate. They are also a smaller initial purchase. You can use 2 liter soda bottles as well. You can also stash them in small spaces.
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    Looks good. But where do you get glass cheap? I normally see 5 gal carbouys running like the $40 range.

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    You might want to add how to purify using chlorine along with a warning not to use bleach with additives. The same with iodine. How to with precaution of iodine allergy. Also a mention about waiting times vs. turbity vs. temperature. You have both listed but don't touch on them. Otherwise an excellent write up.

    Activated Carbon ADsorbs. It bonds chemically rather than ABsorbs. And it only adsorbs organic chemicals. It does nothing with non-organic or heavy metals. Might make them smell better but I digress. Nice job.
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    Rick, I will have to look into the ADsorb stuff. I did list the iodine warning on use. Maybe I should make it more apparent.

    Randy, I guess I was thinking of mason jars. I could probably ask my neighbor who works at Industrial Container about glass carbouys. Glass is more expensive than plastic, but compare it to Stainless Steel. I think I will take out that statement that glass is cheap. It is not really necessary and doesn't add anything, and since it is relative to what you are comparing it too...it makes it more confusing.

    I will work on this tonight and repost my changes.
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    Chlorine dioxide will not kill cysts.
    UV treatment has not been tested for effectiveness in the field by the CDC. They do mention certain requirements for it to be effective, including the power level (batteries might not be enough?).
    http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drin...treatment.html
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16386286
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17290975

    Carbon will remove mercury and arsenic. It also will remove chlorine so is useful for home filtration.
    http://www.thewatersite.com/activate...er_filters.htm

    Never heard of a filter with .02 micron size. The smallest I've heard of is .2 microns. That's worth looking into. But some virus are even smaller than that.
    The problem with filters is they eventually stop working. And they will be covered with chemicals, bacteria, etc that were filtered. They are a concentrated toxic waste product and disposal is a problem. The same applies to RO. You need to emphasize that care should be exercised when disposing of old filters.

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    You did mention the warning on iodine you just didn't say how much to use. Here's some info from Princeton U.

    http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/manual/water.shtml

    And some info on activated carbon and adsorption:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_filtering
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    I am still debating on listing correct dosings of chemicals. I want them to have to do a little research on their own. It is also a subject that is much debated, and changing. Maybe I should mention that they need to research the dosing on their own.

    The wiki on carbon filtering is interesting. In the first paragraph it says "Carbon filtering is a method of filtering that uses a bed of activated carbon to remove contaminants and impurities, using chemical adsorption." and in the third paragraph it says "Activated carbon works via a process called absorption," Maybe I should just call it carbon sorption, which encompasses both processes. As far as specifying which chemicals it removes, maybe I need a vague comment to encourage more research.

    I got a lot of the specifics from the CDC website. Is that official? Well, they do say fluoride is good..so.... Anyways, they say Chlorine Dioxide is highly effective against giardia, which can be in a cyst form in one part of it's life cycle. Of course, they also say that it is only somewhat effective against cryptosporidium.

    Thanks for all the help. I am going to keep refining it.
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    Use wiki as a reference but never trust your life or health to what it says.

    This next reference is kind of old but is still true today. Notice how small a virus can be (hepatitis).
    http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/manual/water.shtml

    A good list of water-borne illness (including injuries and drownings) and systems that track them
    http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/stat...alth_data.html

    My motto will always be that the best field-expedient method is charcoal filter and boiling. According to statistics, only RO can match or beat it. Nothing else comes close. I'll stick to what works. But if you can't boil or don't have charcoal you use what you have. Something is better than nothing.
    I don't store that much and am constantly using it, so storage problems don't affect me. But I would always boil first to make sure I am starting clean. Then treat with chlorine to prevent any growth in the stored water. Seal up tight and keep in a cool place away from direct sunlight.

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