The Genuine primitive fish hook

[RangerXanatos]

I'm confused to what you're saying. That the water will make the fish seem higher than they really are and that the bent tip will actually hit the fish since you are aiming with a higher part of the spear?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I'm confused to what you're saying. That the water will make the fish seem higher than they really are and that the bent tip will actually hit the fish since you are aiming with a higher part of the spear?

Yes ,thats exactly what I said!

[crashdive123]

Refraction (diffractive effect is when a wave (light wave) is traveling through one medium (air) and encounters another medium (water) it changes speed, causing the picture you see to "bend". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction By using a projectile with an offset tip, and aiming along the shaft and not the tip you may be able to more easily hit the target in the water (as long as the angle of the tip is consistent with the refractive index that you are dealing with). Me???? Just spear it, if you miss, try again.

[Rick]

Here are some links to spear fishing and refraction:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ght=refraction

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ght=refraction

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ght=refraction

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Good threads Rick, I have a couple effective methods of spearing fish, The "HUMMING BIRD" profile spear is one of them, splinters have loose fibers that act as Barbs,also they are Sewing Needle sharp. there is a spear Gun design that I will post later. I also make these hand lines for fishing (the hook is shaped like a fish, from a sand dollar heart)


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[Gray Wolf]

Don't you think that the line is a tad to thick for the size of the hook?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

That cordage is made from the shinny rind of a coconut husk , reducing the fibers to make a smaller cord would be very difficult with this material.

[Gray Wolf]

Okay, but don't you think it's to thick for the size of the hook? That was the question.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Okay, but don't you think it's to thick for the size of the hook? That was the question.

no , I use these to catch cat fish and other large fish. the line will hold about 20 LBS . so its just strong enough. the size doesnt interfere with its performance.

[Gray Wolf]

Maybe I was wording this wrong, don't you think that the hook is to small for that size line?

[Rick]

It might be helpful to have a tape measure next to it. That way we can see what the hook and line sizes are.

Do you bait the hook or use it more as a lure. The reason I ask is because you said it was shaped like a fish.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Maybe I was wording this wrong, don't you think that the hook is to small for that size line?

no, any larger hook would be too big, a smaller line would be too weak. the hook and line in the photo are near actual size

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

If that does'nt do it for you, this method of hand drawn spear gun might be better for you.. just a piece of bamboo or cane, a length of cord, and a slender spear shaft.

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detail of the cord and spear shaft as it emerges from the tail of the spear holder

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[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I have had good results with this type of spear thrower for fishing, it works great!

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

in some places the people fishing will use a spear called a "DROP BOB" and it is a heavy weight with a rope hook on one end and needle-like spear points on the other . the tool is droped on top of flounder and other simular fish

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

If that does'nt do it for you, this method of hand drawn spear gun might be better for you.. just a piece of bamboo or cane, a length of cord, and a slender spear shaft.

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detail of the cord and spear shaft as it emerges from the tail of the spear holder

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if you make a spear head like this one and launch it with the above tool you can see the potential for success.

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And this view...

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[Runs With Beer]

Do you think this will work?

[crashdive123]

If that's a coaster it's sitting on, yes. If that's an area rug it's sitting on - that'll be one BIG fish. Either way it looks great.

[snakeman]

Those are wicked looking spears! Where do you get thorns that big

[Gray Wolf]

Do you think this will work?

RWB did you make that hook?