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    Question Should He Get The Reward ?

    (What do y'all think ? should he get the reward or was he just doing his job ?

    Ranger Whose Tip Led to Capture of Ariz. Fugitives May Be Barred From Getting Reward

    FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. – The U.S. Forest Service is reviewing whether an eastern Arizona ranger whose tip led to the capture of two of the most wanted fugitives in America can receive $27,500 in reward money under the agency's ethics guidelines.

    Apache Sitgreaves National Forest spokeswoman Pam Baltimore said Wednesday local forest officials would like to see the ranger get the money. But she said tentative word from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the Forest Service, is that he cannot.

    She didn't know what the department's reasoning might be, but said ethics guidelines generally prevent forest employees from receiving gifts over $25.

    "If it's a negative response from them as far as federal policy dictates, there's nothing we can do," Baltimore said. She added the ranger wishes to remain anonymous.

    The U.S. Marshals Service and the operator of a privately run prison had offered a combined $40,000 for information leading to the arrest of three inmates who escaped from the state prison in Kingman on July 30.



    One of the convicts was arrested Aug. 1 in western Colorado after an early morning shootout with police.

    Two people who provided information that led to the arrest of the second inmate a week later in Wyoming have split $12,500 of the reward money, said Fidencio Rivera, chief deputy U.S. marshal for Arizona.

    Rivera said the Marshals Service is waiting for a determination on whether the Arizona forest ranger is eligible for the remaining $27,500 in the capture of John McCluskey and Casslyn Welch, the alleged accomplice.

    The Arizona Republic reported earlier Wednesday that the reward was in question.

    The fugitives' trail had gone cold when the ranger was investigating what appeared to be an unattended campfire in the Apache Sitgreaves forest on Aug. 19. He noticed a beat-up Nissan Sentra backed suspiciously in the trees and had a brief conversation with Mccluskey, who appeared nervous and fidgety.

    The ranger took down the car's New Mexico license plate and called it in to authorities, who determined it was stolen around the time an Oklahoma couple was killed in New Mexico. Authorities there had said McCluskey, Welch and another of the inmates were linked to the killings, and they later were charged in the deaths.

    A SWAT team swarmed the campsite and arrested Welch and McCluskey. The Apache County Sheriff's Office says McCluskey told authorities he should have killed the forest ranger when he had the chance.

    The Forest Service hailed the ranger as a hero but withheld his name, saying it believed he was simply doing his job. The agency also said that for safety reasons, the ranger did not want to be in the media spotlight.

    The local sheriff's office honored a request from the Forest Service to withhold the ranger's name.

    Baltimore said the USDA's Ethics Office could make a determination on the reward as soon as Thursday.

    "We're not trying to prevent, from the Forest Service standpoint, our employee getting it," she said. "It's just a fact of life that that's who we work for, and policies are in place."
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    no, for my part i think allowing government officials to accept rewards for service is walking down an ugly road.
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    I have to agree with Canid. It's too bad but ethics clauses are in place for a reason. I worked for a company that had a $25 limit as well.
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    I think he was doing his job so he shouldn't get the reward. But I also think there would be nothing wrong with donating the money to the park he works at to use at their discretion in maintenance and upkeep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerXanatos View Post
    I think he was doing his job so he shouldn't get the reward. But I also think there would be nothing wrong with donating the money to the park he works at to use at their discretion in maintenance and upkeep.
    Thats a good idea,, the money should go someplace,,,,

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    "What do you mean I can't have it? You gave it to the guy that captured those two escaped convicts. If he wanted to donate it to the park, that's his business. I want it in my wallet, thank you."
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    Well I think he should get it. It is not a "Gift", But a reward offered to someone/anyone providing information leading to the arrest of the convicts that do NOT do this kind of thing for a living (LEO's). It Is NOT an expected part of his routine duties. What if he had been a groundskeeper for the park system or maintenance person...or even a Sanitation engineer?
    His life was in jeopardy

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    In Georgia, Park Rangers are LEO's. If he had been off-duty and elsewhere then sure, give him him the money.
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    If his duty title includes LEO duties, absolutely not!

    If he a grounds keeper type , or something similar, I would say yes
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    IMHO like militay personel turning in the two fugatives was/is part of the rangers job. I don't see any military personel collecting rewards offer for "war criminals" from hussien or bin ladens followers. If they were to get "bounty money" they would IMO be doing that ( bounty hunting) instead of their jobs. However I do think that the money should go to his choice of charaties.
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    LEO's and military should not receive any rewards. They are doing their job. If rewards are offered to them, I don't think it would be too far of a stretch --------- Nah, we're not going after that guy - this guy has a higher reward.
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    If the department has an ethics clause then the groundskeeper won't be able to receive it either.

    If you remember the whole hullabaloo about the Mineral's Management Service and the Deep Water Horizon rig? They were accepting very expensive gifts and some of the inspections were not getting done. Whether it was because of the gifts or not it gives the appearance that it was and some folks lost their jobs because of it. Ethics clauses are a good thing in my bood.
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