Need Another Handgun

**Rick** · 05-10-2009, 07:07 AM

Taurus does offer a neat handgun, the Judge (model 4510). It shoots .45 and .410. I've never seen that in a handgun before. Of course, there are a lot of things I haven't seen before.

@ Sarky - The Total Titanium has been discontinued according to their web site.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/pr...egory=Revolver

**aflineman** · 05-10-2009, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rick

Taurus does offer a neat handgun, the Judge (model 4510). It shoots .45 and .410. I've never seen that in a handgun before. Of course, there are a lot of things I haven't seen before.

@ Sarky - The Total Titanium has been discontinued according to their web site.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/pr...egory=Revolver

They are kind of cool. I had a friend who got one after he was elected, just because.

They throw a decent pattern at 15 feet, really spread after that though. It would be great for snakes.

**Rick** · 05-10-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by aflineman

It would be great for snakes.

Wiggle snakes or walkin' snakes?

**crashdive123** · 05-10-2009, 03:45 PM

Either I'm guessing.

**SARKY** · 05-10-2009, 07:50 PM

I'm aware that the Titanium Trackers are discontinued... but the Tracker series of handguns is still in production and available in Stainless Steel. The 38/.357 is a 7 shot and the bigger bores are 5 shot.

**lucznik** · 05-10-2009, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Chris

I went out with my snubnose and shot both rounds today, and let me tell you. I had a hard time controlling the recoil on the 357 rounds. I've got big hands and couple that with the small grip and it being wet it wasn't pretty. So I would definitely recommend the .38 rounds for it.

It must just be an issue of what a person gets used to. I have personally never had any trouble managing .357 loads in a snub nosed (or other) revolver. For personal defensive purposes, I always choose hot .357 loads.

**aflineman** · 05-11-2009, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rick

Wiggle snakes or walkin' snakes?

Whichever was being bad at the time.

**Pict** · 05-11-2009, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by lucznik

It must just be an issue of what a person gets used to. I have personally never had any trouble managing .357 loads in a snub nosed (or other) revolver. For personal defensive purposes, I always choose hot .357 loads.

I have a 2.5 inch S&W Model 19 that is very manageable with .357 loads. You know that you're shooting, it's stout, but it has never bothered me. I do notice I'm not as fast with follow-up shots when shooting magnums. When I carry this gun in the bush I load it with magnums but carry +P .38 in the speed loaders.

Things change drastically when you move to a 2 inch J-frame .357, especially in an airweight/ultralight type gun. The short little boot grips can be very punishing. Typically they have the short ejector rod that can be a liability when clearing the longer magnum cases. They are a dream to carry but sacrificing that much control for the added power has kept me from investing in one.

One thing that you can't get away from in the snub .357 is muzzle blast with magnum loads. My Model 19 could signal aircraft.

The 3 inch Ruger SP 101 in .357 avoids the worst of this. They are all steel with the typical Ruger bank vault construction. The 3 inch barrel means a full length ejector rod and enough barrel to tame both recoil and blast to a higher degree. That combined with a full size grip and you have a decent package especially when carried in a holster. Mac

**lucznik** · 05-11-2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Pict

I have a 2.5 inch S&W Model 19 that is very manageable with .357 loads. You know that you're shooting, it's stout, but it has never bothered me. I do notice I'm not as fast with follow-up shots when shooting magnums. When I carry this gun in the bush I load it with magnums but carry +P .38 in the speed loaders.

Things change drastically when you move to a 2 inch J-frame .357, especially in an airweight/ultralight type gun. The short little boot grips can be very punishing. Typically they have the short ejector rod that can be a liability when clearing the longer magnum cases. They are a dream to carry but sacrificing that much control for the added power has kept me from investing in one.

One thing that you can't get away from in the snub .357 is muzzle blast with magnum loads. My Model 19 could signal aircraft.

The 3 inch Ruger SP 101 in .357 avoids the worst of this. They are all steel with the typical Ruger bank vault construction. The 3 inch barrel means a full length ejector rod and enough barrel to tame both recoil and blast to a higher degree. That combined with a full size grip and you have a decent package especially when carried in a holster. Mac

I've traded or sold off a bunch of guns over the years. Most of them I don't miss at all. But there are a few that I would dearly love to replace.

I used to have a 2.5" S&W M19. Boy, do I wish I had never sold that gun! I think of all the guns I have traded or sold this one is among the ones I miss the most.

I also had a S&W 6904 that I wish I had kept. It was actually my first auto pistol ever. I traded it at the start of a long line of trying to find an auto that really "fit" me. In the end, I've realized that little 9mm had all I ever really wanted in an auto pistol.

I had a 3" S&W M60 that I traded to my dad that I was planning on eventually getting back from him. Then it was stolen from him so; now I'll not see that one again. That's too bad 'cause that was a great little handgun.

Finally, I used to have a 6" S&W M27 that I sometimes wish I had not sold. Man, was it ever a shooter. I sold it because I thought that it was just too big for convenient carrying. Ahh, the stupidity of youth.

There have been lots of others; Smiths, Rugers, Tauruses, Glocks, etc., but like I said, I don't ever really miss any of them much.