Heart Attack in the Wilderness

[Ole WV Coot]

I had all the classes, and he probably wouldn't have made it but one thing that you don't need to learn is carry a tiny bottle of nitro tabs. I don't need them but they go in with aspirin. I sometimes ride with my GP and he told me it was cheap insurance, so I carry a bottle along with the aspirin. Most EMTs I know just have enough knowledge to be dangerous. Last class I was told what not to do to keep from being sued. Good samaritan laws are good, maybe. I have been fortunate enough not to help on anything serious but me, I tread with caution.

[oly]

Mountain Mama, I am sorry for the loss of your friend. This thread points to the reality about death, which is it is fun to think about & do the wilderness survival stuff; However the reality is you will die in a hospital, in the most undignified manner, with tubes draining everything, and tubes inputting everything.

Remy is right, a massive heart attack in the beloved wilderness, regardless of age is a good exit. I don't want to be killed by bears, but it would please me greatly for my used-up spawned-out body to be devoured by them, become bear poop to fertilize the blueberries for future wilderness wanders. I have a vision of Wareagle eating blueberries, and saying, "These are really sweet"..

I have been telling my wife for years that I hope to die in the mountains and give back to the earth. hopeak dont keep the animals away from me, let nature take its course.

[endurance]

CPR is great if you go into cardiac arrest due to a lightning strike. CPR works damn fine in the case of cold water drownings, especially with children. It works pretty well when you have a heart arrythmia and an AED is close by. But when it comes to a massive heart attack in the back country, you're dead.

What they don't teach you in the CPR class is that it's about 1% effective in the field. If you go into cardiac arrest in a hospital, your odds increase to about 25% for living long enough to take another breath on your own, but only about 10% for making it out of the hospital ever again. To expect someone to survive after being down for 3-4 hours while awaiting rescue isn't going to happen.

The best chance, as mentioned by others, is a minor heart attack and an asprin.

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