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    Default Transpiration bags work best on windward side of a mountain

    Transpiration bags work best on the windward side of a mountain where more condensation occurs.

    Condensation occurs on the windward side of a mountain because the rising air cools by adiabatic expansion, so the air becomes saturated and the water vapor condenses.

    The lee side is dry because the air that has had its moisture squeezed out in going over the mountain warms by compression, so becomes relatively drier.

    I've posted this before about using black plastic bags. In a test the black bags had about 1/3 more water in them than the white bags, and about 1/4 more water than the clear bags. Now I need to test Transpiration bags on windward side compared to the leeward side of a mountain. This would make a longer trip from camp, because you would normally want to set up camp on the leeward side of a mountain.
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    What are the actual measured amounts of water you have obtained?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Adiabatic expansion. I knew that. I knew that!
    hmmmm, sounds like a man desperately clinging to his Minister of Science title if ever I heard one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertRogers View Post
    What are the actual measured amounts of water you have obtained?
    My first few tests were done for the purpose of seeing if the different color bags got different results in water accumulation. They were all tested on the same types of trees, large bushes with different types of leafs (thin/wide). Then what the approximate differences were in water accumulation. Trees or large bushes with wide leafs accumulated more water then thin leafs each time. What we were looking at wasn't what the exact amount of water attained was, just the differences in the amounts. Now were going to do the same testing on the differences of the windward and leeward sides of mountains and hills, but now only using the black and clear bags with the same gauge and volume size bags (as before but no longer testing the white bags). We will get to the exact amounts (water, time bagging, and time of day) and the end of all the tests. We still have to do each of the tests quarterly for time of year differences. When the final data is put together, it will be released. But because I'm part of the wolf pack, I'm time to time releasing "usable tips" to our members here. This project is very time consuming and no serious study has ever been documented, but I believe this is extremely important to survival, to those stuck without any available or safe water supply. I truly believe this will save some lives.
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