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    Those 2 convicts that escaped from prison in upstate NY foraged for canned/dry goods in cabins for several days successfully. Most people leave some food in their vacation homes/trailers/cabins etc. Also plenty of carbohydrates if you know what plants to look for, but protein is hard to find; you can go a week and still not get extremely weak without it. Headaches pass in a day or two, I find I move slower physically and mentally. Good idea to fast for a few days at least once a year so you know how your mind and body will react, also good for you mentally, physically etc. I often eat a light breakfast at 5-6 am work outside, manual labor, outdoor recreation until I eat a meal at about 3-6 pm. I only have water that whole time, but heavy physical activities with only water for 2-3 days is much harder, for a week it is extremely difficult. I stay fairly thin, this shrinks the stomach.

    I took photo of a sign with fishing regulations in Central Park, Manhattan NYC. Several people were fishing there, I saw sunfish (bluegill) up to about 8" long. Barbless hooks and all "catch and release", no lead, basically. Waste of time IMO.

    If you place a snare or trap for wildlife, mammals on land or water these work better if you can use stone, sticks and other vegetation to form a funnel toward the net or snare or even hooks of trot/limb line if there is not already a natural narrowing of path. Most animals will sense even a very thin black wire or clear fishline and avoid it if at all possible. Easy to see if it has snowed or tracks in mud, they may have used path may times, then you set snare there they go right around it or tug at from side, set it off then get the food or bait. I have heard people say there just aren't any animals here. Wish I had game cam to show everything that walked around their snare/trap. Similar with people fishing with poor choice of fishing lure/bait or stiff rod tip and not feeling anything, or casting few feet in wrong place. Knowledge and experience is priceless. Ignorance is waste of time and/or supper of canned spam or something else from grocery store and a heavy backpack.

    edit: seine or casting nets are legal in many places as long as small gauge/spacing for bait fish not game fish but be sure to check regulations for the specific body of water you are practicing on and practice as often as possible. In my experience this takes a lot of experience to have any regular and repeated success. Many things can go wrong. A lot of liter gets hung up in the nets, they tear, fish are not typically in open areas very often unless larger game fish push them there toward the surface, feeding near surface on plankton or bait fish that do and you don't spook them, then you need a boat to go to where birds are diving on them. Skill to cast net, or set up seine properly and at a good location, i.e. narrow place in stream or where plankton drifts to in lake. You could have the best food gathering tools but without skill and experience it is as worthless as in wilderness with helicopter + fuel and no knowledge of how to fly it out. BTW if you catch large or small game fish (most catfish are game fish) when practicing just release immediately, game warden may be "under cover" or not in uniform using camera/phone in video mode nearby, also any law enforcement can ticket/fine you and many like to fish and know regulations.

    Texas Regulations for Seine Net and other legal devices:
    https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/o...vices-for-fish

    "A seine is a section of non-metallic mesh webbing, with the top edge buoyed upwards by a floatline and the bottom edge weighted. Includes a push net.

    May be used to take NONGAME fish and shrimp only.
    May not be longer than 20 feet.
    May not have mesh exceeding 1/2-inch square.
    Must be manually operated.
    In SALT WATER, nongame fish may be taken by seine for bait purposes only."


    But some rivers, streams and lakes and private ponds etc. are specifically limited to only one pole and no barbs, these are generally NOT in a wilderness where a person would be "surviving."
    I have never been arrested for eating my bait,

    One of many youtube videos of a person using a one person short seine net, often better to work it up under the under cut banks of a stream or lake then bring poles tips at bottom together add more weight to bottom (rounded pebbles in seam or whatever). Many sucker fish that are very boney but eatable just make a soup and strain the bones out if you are very hungry. Also small crayfish and fresh water shrimp are OK in stew or soup with a starch, shoots of cattail or roots of smilax or whatever you can find or have in backpack. No-see-um mesh over dip-net works but small area is less effective. Make dip-net out of willow branches.

    https://youtu.be/Ulx3L2y3mZY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
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    Anyway back to the fields and edible pine cambium & Pine Nuts

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    Hey imagine how little time it took to find it after scratching my head for 15minutes... "Now what was his name?"
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    I can remember the ad.....LOL...on one of 3 channels....back when.
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    Euell Gibbons. (Check the title of the vid)

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    Good video of a young guy using seine net with 2 sticks to catch bait fish in local stream for game fishing later. Advantage is it is very light weight and portable compared to most fish traps and fast if water is very cold, but cannot tie to rope and drop in like a wire/basket trap, i.e. sometimes you can stay dry if using crayfish and minnow traps or even a casting net.

    https://youtu.be/QVhO7pY1iEE

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXyakr View Post
    Good video of a young guy using seine net with 2 sticks to catch bait fish in local stream for game fishing later. Advantage is it is very light weight and portable compared to most fish traps and fast if water is very cold, but cannot tie to rope and drop in like a wire/basket trap, i.e. sometimes you can stay dry if using crayfish and minnow traps or even a casting net.

    https://youtu.be/QVhO7pY1iEE
    That's what the Mosquito nets are for - Dual use.
    “There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

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