Knife/Survival Knife Info.

**U.S.Marine2111** · 09-13-2007, 03:59 PM

Just got a couple more minutes into the Kbar thrashing, and it bent at the tang, but this was after it already split a 4x4 down the length. The bend occured on the second time through the 4x4, the knife was struck with a large piece of wood several times to drive it through the 4x4, still impressed. How many people use their knives like that?

**RobertRogers** · 09-14-2007, 09:45 PM

What do you think makes for a good knife?

**Sarge47** · 09-15-2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by RobertRogers

What do you think makes for a good knife?

I think we've already done a couple of threads on this topic, but again I'll say that quality, durability, and price do it for me.

**FVR** · 09-15-2007, 11:30 AM

Kabar, need I say more.

**survivalhike** · 09-15-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by FVR

Kabar, need I say more.

I agree. You can beat the tar out of it and if by some chance it ever breaks you can replace it for $50.

**U.S.Marine2111** · 09-16-2007, 12:02 PM

Ka Bar! http://www.knifetests.com/page6.html Look at the beating this guy gives a Ka Bar, it would constitute abuse in my book, but it takes a lot of abuse before it finally fails. Most people will not have to use their Ka Bar at the extremes demonstrated in the video, but it is nice to know it will hold up to a lot. You can get a Ka Bar for around $50 if you shop around a bit. Are there better knives out there, yes, does anybody really need a knife that costs $300+, no, absolutly not. If you go to various forums you're going to have people preaching the greatness of Strider, Becker, LaRue, Chris Reeves, the list goes on and on. These knives are absolutly great, at least from most of the reviews and testomonials, but I can't see spending $300 on a knife that will be spend most of it's time opening MRE's and cutting minor vegetation or things of that nature. But hey, if you've got the money and spending $300 on a knife gets your rocks off, run with it.

**Rbrownkatz** · 09-17-2007, 09:14 PM

Frank,
I bought two LMF II's here
http://www.rockynational.com/search.aspx?d=1
for $39.95 each without sheaths. I made my own. My wife and I will try them out next month during seven days on the Appalachian Trail in Georgia. We also each have a Buck. I've had mine 34 years. Great knife but I wanted a fixed blade also. I'll let you know how we like the Gerbers.

**FVR** · 09-20-2007, 11:04 PM

Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
Two favorites.

**HOP** · 09-21-2007, 07:36 AM

For the K-Bar fans there is good news IMHO that Becker knives are going to be made by k-bar after Camilus closed down . Beckers are heavy rugged knives and I think this is a win, win , win for Becker , ka-bar and us.

**WildGoth** · 09-22-2007, 07:19 AM

here use this old post of mine http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...read.php?t=146

**MCBushbaby** · 10-03-2007, 02:00 PM

Cold Steel SRK (get the old CarbonV version, the new one is stainless)

**STB** · 10-14-2007, 10:19 PM

Hey
HOpefully someone sees this. I found this knife, and it looks pretty good to me but i dont know that much about knives. Wondering what you guys thought of it, and if there are betetr ones out there that are cheaper or around the same price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-12-ARMADA-HU...QQcmdZViewItem

Thoughts great appreciated.

**WildGoth** · 10-15-2007, 12:22 AM

seems ok but try to stay away from ebay for knives you want to know how it feels to your hands so try and get something you can get a feel of beforehand

**Sarge47** · 10-15-2007, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by STB

Hey
HOpefully someone sees this. I found this knife, and it looks pretty good to me but i dont know that much about knives. Wondering what you guys thought of it, and if there are betetr ones out there that are cheaper or around the same price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-12-ARMADA-HU...QQcmdZViewItem

Thoughts great appreciated.

The e-bay ad claims the Rockwell Hardness is 54/58 and that the blade is of high carbon steel. I found the same knife at the same price here:

http://www.redsoldier.com/FURY-12-AR...2&category=259

The ad says the knife is a Chinese import and I don't recognize the brand. I would be wary since it 's an unknown and the price is so low. A good quality knife is going to cost a bit more than that. Check out this Ka-bar. I've recently bought one and love it.

http://www.tomarskabars.com/1275_INFO.html

This is the lowest price I could find and S & H is about half of what the e-bay seller is asking. That's my .02 worth.

**warrigal** · 10-15-2007, 08:57 AM

G'day fellas, New here ( I guess the post count would give that away) I'm into knives a bit.
Stb That knife your looking at is a copy of an Aitor "oso negro"
Take this link to a legit version. I haven't used this seller I just googled up the image.
There are a lot of Aitor copies floating around ebay of late. If you can find Aitor it self they are excelent knives I had one similar to the one pictured years ago and it served me well. The only thing I would say is sometimes the suffer from an overdose of machismo and the "look "can comprimise on the function.
Personally I would look to a seperate blade to saw althought the Sog Revolver seems to be better than most I have Gerber sportsman saw for sawing. And more knives than I know what to do with.
Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
Here are some mid sized users all about the five inch blade length
1.Cold Steel master hunter good really good just the edge grind was a little thickfor my preference.
2. ontario USAF survival knife hard to beat for the money.
3.Germaneye brand copy of a Puma White hunter.
4. Martinii of Finland excelent blade steel very comfortable.
5.Buck Nighthawk Most comfy of those there very solid. Lives in the grab bag in the 4x4.
6 Drop point hunter by Toni Guido. Really does need some work
Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
Saws
1.Opinel Hard to beat for the price.
2.Gerber sportsman. interchangable blades light and cuts like a demon.
3. Buck most comfortable to use but can't change the blades.
How is that for a start?
Carl

**Sarge47** · 10-15-2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by warrigal

G'day fellas, New here ( I guess the post count would give that away) I'm into knives a bit.
Stb That knife your looking at is a copy of an Aitor "oso negro"
Take this link to a legit version. I haven't used this seller I just googled up the image.
There are a lot of Aitor copies floating around ebay of late. If you can find Aitor it self they are excelent knives I had one similar to the one pictured years ago and it served me well. The only thing I would say is sometimes the suffer from an overdose of machismo and the "look "can comprimise on the function.
Personally I would look to a seperate blade to saw althought the Sog Revolver seems to be better than most I have Gerber sportsman saw for sawing. And more knives than I know what to do with.
Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
Here are some mid sized users all about the five inch blade length
1.Cold Steel master hunter good really good just the edge grind was a little thickfor my preference.
2. ontario USAF survival knife hard to beat for the money.
3.Germaneye brand copy of a Puma White hunter.
4. Martinii of Finland excelent blade steel very comfortable.
5.Buck Nighthawk Most comfy of those there very solid. Lives in the grab bag in the 4x4.
6 Drop point hunter by Toni Guido. Really does need some work
Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
Saws
1.Opinel Hard to beat for the price.
2.Gerber sportsman. interchangable blades light and cuts like a demon.
3. Buck most comfortable to use but can't change the blades.
How is that for a start?
Carl

Welcome, now go to the introductions forum and introduce yourself properly.

**STB** · 10-15-2007, 12:14 PM

What about toms Browns tracker knife? Its crazy expensive, but seems to have alot to it.and thats what were looking for, a knife that will do everything. Well not everything, but alot. And the high carbon is nice. So if you have to bring out one knife, what would it be?
And thanks for the info on the other knife, it was very useful.

**MCBushbaby** · 10-15-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by STB

What about toms Browns tracker knife? Its crazy expensive, but seems to have alot to it.and thats what were looking for, a knife that will do everything. Well not everything, but alot. And the high carbon is nice. So if you have to bring out one knife, what would it be?
And thanks for the info on the other knife, it was very useful.

The TB Tracker is a bit overrated, in my humble opinion. It's basically a $300-something hatchet/knife with some modifications (baton, wire breaker). I never had a need for a wire breaker in the bush, nor do I find a big different between knives with a baton indent vs a straight back. If I feel the need to chop wood I usually bring a hatchet or fold saw but I could see how a large chop knife would be useful. But one thing I completely disagree with is the shape of the handle and their advertisement of "three ways to hold the knife," aimed at a knife-specific application, hybrid, and hatchet-use... I just feel that I could do the same hand positions on a plain handle. Just my two cents.

**warrigal** · 10-15-2007, 06:50 PM

Survival knives are designed for people who's normal day to day activites don't involve a knife. A bush pilot or travelling sales man for eg. A hunter or fisherman is gunna have a knife on him anyway. $US300 dollars will buy you a good knife and heap of other "last ditch" gear A quick google just showed up a Buck night hawk for $US50 and a CS Master hunter for $US130.
You might well save on weight by having one knife instead of the knife, saw, axe combo but IMO you can really make yourself a lot of work. And if you loose it.. well.
Yes you could do all the jobs required with a one off like the tracker but I'll bet you could do it faster neater and more efficently with the the three piece combo I'm pushing. add a Multi tool and your laughing.
Carl
P.S. The comment about survival knives should be quailfied that a survival knife is a tool suitable to do all things required to survive for a couple days till the fluro orange rescue Gods turn up. But not really the tool you want for extended trips because so many jobs will be so much harder without the right tool.

**Sarge47** · 10-15-2007, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by warrigal

Survival knives are designed for people who's normal day to day activites don't involve a knife. A bush pilot or travelling sales man for eg. A hunter or fisherman is gunna have a knife on him anyway. $US300 dollars will buy you a good knife and heap of other "last ditch" gear A quick google just showed up a Buck night hawk for $US50 and a CS Master hunter for $US130.
You might well save on weight by having one knife instead of the knife, saw, axe combo but IMO you can really make yourself a lot of work. And if you loose it.. well.
Yes you could do all the jobs required with a one off like the tracker but I'll bet you could do it faster neater and more efficently with the the three piece combo I'm pushing. add a Multi tool and your laughing.
Carl

...a knife no higher priced than $110 myself. My Ka-bar Bull Dozier retails for around $115 but I bought if for around $73 including the S. & H.