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    You know whats funny to me, people who always believe others are lieing about everything. I survived in Afghanistan with nothing more sometimes then a slab of
    goat meat and snow melted water.

    You gonna call me a liar?


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    For 40 days? "Sometimes" I have no problem with. A month and a half on beans and rice is a bit of stretch. But, hey, it could happen. Now, explain the turkey in the coffee can to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySurvivalist View Post
    You know whats funny to me, people who always believe others are lieing about everything. I survived in Afghanistan with nothing more sometimes then a slab of
    goat meat and snow melted water.

    You gonna call me a liar?
    Are you a 17 year old kid?

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    Eh, I tried kid. I like to believe there are some honest people. Fletch, you made a decent point.
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    Um Rick? You cut the turkey up into little chunks of meat. What he's suggested is certainly do-able. I agree with Crash about the way he approached us. Perhaps we are becoming too cynical, but better to err on the side of caution, it's a lot easier to talk about winter survival here than it is to do it out there. It just pains me to try to figure out why people want to do these things unless they're experienced hunters and trappers without enough food!

    I've done winter camping in northern Manitoba, certainly not 40 days and 40 nights at a time. I can get quite comfortable at it in fact, but the most I've done is a week at a time. The weather that I go hunting in up north is enough to make most people change their minds about going, but I make sure I've got enough food and a decent shelter! I've lived in fully equipped bush camps for longer than that, but survival wasn't even an issue, we were there to do a job and we did it and all of our basic needs were provided for so it doesn't count. It was just a job that required living in a bigazz tent in the winter.

    If I'm out for that length of time with someone and that person packed along tofu as a food source, that person should realize that I may start looking at them as a food source. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySurvivalist View Post
    You know whats funny to me, people who always believe others are lieing about everything. I survived in Afghanistan with nothing more sometimes then a slab of
    goat meat and snow melted water.

    You gonna call me a liar?
    NO...SIR, With a few exceptions, very few exceptions, this forum is comprised of "Google" taught, and book learned members, who think they have the, "Right Stuff", however enjoy the safety and comfort of their soft life.

    There is to much of a "Nanny" mind set. 45,000 people per year die on the American Highways, and no one Say's, stay off the Highway. So what if a few people die in the wilderness, your going to die anyway.

    We should help enlighten about the dangers, and teach skills, but not discourage adventures, just because it is outside of your comfort range.

    sregor, came with an invitation to an adventure, sregor did not come asking our permission, or even what we thought, just an invitation.

    sregor if I was 45 years younger, I would love to go on your adventure. As it is getting through the winter in my cabin will be all the hardship I want to endure.

    Damn the the nanny's, "Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing".

    I say go for it.......
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    hopak, that hurt! and you are spot on with it. If anyone had told me don't do that.......I did it anyway. SO it does not matter what anyone says. Man will do what ever he wants..........and some will die before thier time........infact most will. The others are prepared for death.

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    Hopeak, you certainly are one of the people on here I will enjoy reading your posts. I myself and not a person to flame someone and the point is made pretty clear.

    Thanks to the TC for the invite, but ill pass this trip man.

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    Hope, you are so eloquent.

    Trax, I'm with you. If I'm going to be in the bush for an extended period of time I am going very well prepared.

    When my friends and I take a couple week hunting trip, we pack like we are going to be gone for a month or more. I remember my first December hunting trip in Alaska. We had wall tents with wood stoves, slept on cots in -40 bags. I was cold for 16 days. My body craved any thing with fat in it. If one of the guys had said "Lets do another couple weeks". I would have punched him in the mouth. I had a lot of fun on that trip but I wouldn't do it again. I don't think we would have survived on tofu, rice, beans and 2 turkeys.

    sregor, I don't believe you made to excursion as you relayed it to us. But who cares what I think. Do what you wanna do. Just take pictures and share them if you get back.
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    hopeak, I was going to post to your irresponsible remarks, but if you don't get it by now, nothing I can say will make a difference, not that you would care. Sarge, trax, crash, Rick, nell, Beo, kalak and others have explained this many times before, and you still don't understand.

    And BTW, I would trek with anyone of them (and some that I forgot to mention), because they do have the "Right Stuff" as you put it. You're comments make me think that you described yourself, "a Google and Book type survivor". If you had the "Right Stuff", you would know how dangerous it can be out there. Telling people, that you can see by their post, that they're unprepared and don't have much wilderness experience, to go for it, is just irresponsible. JMHO
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    Does a camera have room in a survival pack

    Matches, check
    Iodine Tabs, check

    Lets see,

    Camera with super lens and proof verification, check.

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    Proof verification? I must say sir that my liquor is 80 proof and above.
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    Grey Wolf, Your opinion went down the Outhouse Hole, a few months ago when you called me a lier. So here is my opinion......nanny, nanny.....nanny, grow a pair.

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    Everyone fix a heaping bowl of this for supper tonight.

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    As for opinions on my experience, abilities, and or lack thereof. I could care less. I have nothing to prove to anyone. If my posts are of value take them to heart if they aren't ignore them. It's about that simple. It's a forum for God's sake.
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    hurry before they know I've escaped again , sure is a b...h gettin outa that straight jacket yea sign me up Imma goin I'll show dem how to put a turkey in a can alright and we can pass da time fartin from all da beans an rice wooo sounds cool dont worry son its not loaded

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    Maybe it happened it probable didnt but who really cares.I HONESTLY walked 10 miles with a 50lb pack had plenty of food and water for the four days and was still glad to get home.Or maybe it was two days?

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    Awesome.. truely awesome... haha.

    Love the can.

    I thought a camera was cool hell, how am I gonna fit that can in my pack...

    Dang..

    Is this the winter excursion proof he wanted?
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    my honest opinion is if a man wants to go do sumthin like that and believes he can then by god why not? If earlier man sat at his puter and said ohno it's dangerous where would we be ? Aint alot in dis world that gets the heart going or causes excitement and the rush that is not dangerous cmon wheres the adventure? It was purely survival and lrational to take a covered wagon across the great divide yet it was done countless times It was considered borderline insanity to be a mountain man in the Rockies hell I'd go and truth be told I've done alot worse things in the name of adventure .

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    I like my computer adventures dont get me wrong, nothing like a desktop background of a 3d fire. Takes seconds to make and it burns forever.

    No kidding.

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    Uh, okay. Have at.

    If you asked me how sane it was to take a covered wagon across the great divide I would have told you how nuts it was without proper precautions and doing it the right time of year. I would have explained what you needed to take with you to keep you alive.

    Of course, if you just told me you were going to take a wagon into the Indian lands for a couple of weeks that would have changed things quite a bit. I'd have had to read a book before I could have advised you properly. Anyone know a good book about traveling in the Indian lands for a couple of weeks? A friend of mine has a wild hair.
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