I can't take this crap anymore

**smokelessfire** · 08-29-2007, 01:52 PM

ok, i know i am probably ignorant on this, but seems to me nuts produce a good enough oil for keeping a knife good, and of course animal fat is good too. try making a candle out of a walnut. just hold one end and set the other on fire. the nut burns. loaded with oil. it may not be the same as dinosaur-powered machine oil, but i say just as good. also i am not criticizing all of china, and who cares anyway, stop the pc crapola. me, i'd prefer to buy knives from switzerland or japan. no one has topped samurai sword technology(folding 400 times), except maybe the ancient muslims, who equalled or excelled it. too bad their technology is lost.

**DEET** · 08-30-2007, 01:56 AM

Actually the knives made in china by buck and kabar are their folding knives with the rubber handles which I have had the oppurtunity to look at and I would have to say that they are inferior and don't live up to the name they are marketed under. These practices of respectable companies putting their names on inferior products will only come back to haunt them. I will have to say that the best knife I have ever owned is not american but is in fact lebanese. I purchased it while overseas and it is without any doubt the knife I would trust my life with. It's handcrafted damascus steel with a compressed leather washer hilt. I got the knife for a steal at a bazzar for only $30 american. China is not the only country manufacturing inferior products but it is my experience that anything I have ever purchased made there is total crap. I'm sure that the reason for this is not that chinese themselves are inferior but instead the companies that comission them want their product at such a cut rate price that the chinese have no choice. I also don't agree with their labor practices but that is an issue for another thread.

**Sarge47** · 08-30-2007, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by DEET

Actually the knives made in china by buck and kabar are their folding knives with the rubber handles which I have had the oppurtunity to look at and I would have to say that they are inferior and don't live up to the name they are marketed under. These practices of respectable companies putting their names on inferior products will only come back to haunt them. I will have to say that the best knife I have ever owned is not american but is in fact lebanese. I purchased it while overseas and it is without any doubt the knife I would trust my life with. It's handcrafted damascus steel with a compressed leather washer hilt. I got the knife for a steal at a bazzar for only $30 american. China is not the only country manufacturing inferior products but it is my experience that anything I have ever purchased made there is total crap. I'm sure that the reason for this is not that chinese themselves are inferior but instead the companies that comission them want their product at such a cut rate price that the chinese have no choice. I also don't agree with their labor practices but that is an issue for another thread.

All that's well & good, but I'm still not giving up my "Bull Dozier"!

**HOP** · 08-31-2007, 09:14 AM

I really don't think that the quality of American made items such as knives was ever in question but the companies outsourced to keep the profit margin up and the company from going under.Many of the American knife makers stil make some here and proudly put made in USA on the box but the asian stuf is posted in fine print. The chinese made rough rider knifes are fairly good knives for the price but are not a match for Case or even some of the companies that have gone under. Camilus use to make knives for several other companies but no more. If you get into some of the knife type forums you can keep abreast of this stuff.

**survival scout** · 09-03-2007, 09:56 AM

hey how would someone go about learning knife throwing because im interested i think its a great skill to learn. hey DEET if that stuff pisses you off then read a book called why the world is flat 2.0 i think it's called its all about how the world is econmicly flat because of all the technoligy and how much we outsourse

**HOP** · 09-03-2007, 02:26 PM

SS search Harry McAvoy for knife throwing also Blackie Colins and Gil Hibben come to mind.

**FVR** · 09-03-2007, 03:20 PM

http://www.throwzini.com/

Good place to begin.

Do a search on the site of members and see if there are any up in NYS.

Alot depends on what you want to throw. I pref. bowies where some of my friends pref. the little ninja knives. Competitions vary and there is alot of conflict concerning some organizations.

If you want an online tut., let me know. Need to know what knife you have, length, and what kind of target.

Pine rounds work great. I use oak but then I'm a very hard thrower.

Good luck,

FVR

**DEET** · 09-07-2007, 07:44 PM

I don't throw in competition or in a club. The way I learned was to buy a set of cheap throwing knives and just start chucking them at an old dead tree trunk in the back yard. Now I've started making my own knives, they are pretty crude but quite effective. Once you have figured out the rhythm and can remeber it you'll be sticking knives like clock work. I use cross cuts of trees now (there isn't to much left of that old tree trunk now) they work pretty good and don't cost anything, I usually stop by wherever I see some tree service cutting and ask if I could have a couple cross cuts, when you tell them why they usually find it pretty interesting and are more than willing to give you a couple.

**WildGoth** · 09-07-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by FVR

http://www.throwzini.com/

Good place to begin.

Do a search on the site of members and see if there are any up in NYS.

Alot depends on what you want to throw. I pref. bowies where some of my friends pref. the little ninja knives. Competitions vary and there is alot of conflict concerning some organizations.

If you want an online tut., let me know. Need to know what knife you have, length, and what kind of target.

Pine rounds work great. I use oak but then I'm a very hard thrower.

Good luck,

FVR

im up in ny

**Beo** · 01-28-2008, 11:55 AM

Who gives two sheets who makes the knife as long as the quality is good. Of course I use only hand made knives but I pay (alot) for doing so.

**Ole WV Coot** · 01-28-2008, 12:57 PM

How about getting a bar of mild steel at the junkyard and test it with a file to make sure it's easy to cut. Draw your outline at least a foot long and an ounce per inch will be about right. I cut 4 out many moons ago and they are played with sometimes, you just keep a chisel point or a regular point on the blade tip you don't need to sharpen anything else. Too soft? Temper a little.

**beerrunner13** · 01-28-2008, 02:00 PM

You can add Schrade to the list of made in China. This one broke my heart, an old timer pointed it out to me in Wally world one day.

**warman87** · 01-28-2008, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by DEET

START RANT
Okay here's the deal. One of my favorite hobbies (besides trying to kill myself in the woods of course

) is knife throwing. Well I ordered a set of colt throwing knives, you know colt the great american gun and knife manufacturer, and received them via the big brown truck today. I open the box all raring to go chuck my new knives and when I pull them out of the sheath there it is stamped right above the hilt on the blade .........CHINA.

You've got to be kidding me, china?! What's next my buck knives are going to be made in korea? Well they are boxed up and ready for the big brown truck to come get them tomorrow. I'm not about to wing an inferior blade at god knows what speed at a big peice of oak, that has emergency room visit written all over it. I swear I can't believe that they would put the Colt name on a chinese blade.
END RANT

On a happier note anyone else here into knife throwing?

yep im very into chunkin sharp stuff i use a no spin method though

**AdventureDoc** · 01-29-2008, 01:28 PM

Kukuri hand made? Wareagle--can I ask for a picture? I love that knife style! Very practical for both chopping and cutting. I'd love to know how you made yours?

**Beo** · 01-29-2008, 01:30 PM

Making a knife from an old file who's done that?

**sh4d0wm4573ri7** · 02-03-2008, 12:52 PM

hmmmmm I do believe me sog seal pup is stamped from Japan I must assume its crap after exstensive testing though ,,,,,, oh well the knife stays razor sharp does what I need and basically kicks @$$ who cares what the stamp says , I listen to a different drummer I suppose if it does what I had intended then I dont care where it came from

**FVR** · 02-03-2008, 03:21 PM

I made one knife from a file. Just used a grinder and wrapped the handle. The knife is super sharp, I can wing it and it sticks, throws some pretty good sparks, but it looks like a file with an adge on it.

I do have a knife that was made out of a file that a local knife maker made. It's just awsome and throws sparks well.

**dilligaf2u2** · 02-05-2008, 01:51 AM

K bar! Uncle Henry, Old Timer! Schrade! = China!

I have a 20 yr old Old Timer. I looked at a new Old Timer made in china. The difference would not be seen by someone that did not know there was a difference. Chris has a good point. If you trust the brand. Give it a try.

Don

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no oil in survival situation? LOL

Good point sarge

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