Drinking Pee?????????

[Beo]

You wana drink pee, go ahead and drink it potty mouth. In the Ranger school when asked the instructors said Do Not Drink Urine. In panama at Jungle School the instructors said Do Not Drink Urine, and the U.S. Navy Seals say Do Not Drink Urine. There are other ways to find water and your pee, urine, tinkle, or whatever you wanna call it is a waste product of the body and holds little salt, and things your body cannot use. Boiling urine does not make it water or safe to drink, its still a waste product. That said if you do then do us all a favor and take some tictacs in your pack so we ain't gotta smell your stank azz breath. what a dumb azz topic its common sense.

[nell67]

Oh Beo,you are bringing up some old threads aren't you,LOL. Whats next poopin' in the woods??
And I agree with you,don't drink it.

[BraggSurvivor]

No thanks, I'd slit a wrist to wet my whistle before I'd drink my beer ridden urine.

[Gray Wolf]

But please tell me it's still okay to squeeze the water out of camel dung and drink it.

[Beo]

You wanna drink pee come here cause I gotta go pretty darn bad right now!!!

[Sam Reeves]

Oh Beo,you are bringing up some old threads aren't you,LOL. ]Whats next poopin' in the woods??
And I agree with you,don't drink it.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=3779

[Ole WV Coot]

My problem is by the time I got that wacky and desperate I would need water to prime the old pump. When I'm thirsty I'm dry from head to toe

[Rick]

drink my beer ridden urine

Wait a minute. Let me think about this. What kind of beer? There might be some possibilities here we're hastily overlooking.

[BuckBall]

Drinking urine is fine. World War 2, Africa...Germans and British troops alike drank their urine. First Gulf War, SAS troops drank their urine when hunting scuds. I served with the UK Military, during survival courses you are taught to do this. Urine is 100% sterile and will not give you any side effects.

[crashdive123]

While it's true that urine is sterile, it does contain toxins. Those toxins, in a healthy, well hydrated individual will probably have no ill effects. It's important to remember that as we become dehydrated the level, or concentration of those toxins increases as measured by a percentage of volume. When this happens urine can be harmful.

[Beo]

Buckball,
Dude I don't know where you got your info on the first gulf war... we called that Desert Shield/Storm here in the U.S. and I was with the 101st Airborne's LRSD and we and no U.S. armed forces soldiers that I knew of or talked to (Ranger's, Scouts, several SF Units, Stinger teams, etc..) drank their urine, and I can tell you from my time in the U.S. Army and Ranger School that we were never, not one time, taught to or told to drink your urine, we were taught it is not safe to drink. Now I was in from 83 to 91, and it never was taught in any school I went to: Ranger, Airborne, Scout (19D), School of the America's (Jungle School), Combat Lifesaver Course, NTC Desert Survival, U.S. Army SERE School. Not one of those schools told us to drink urine and never covered it, we were in fact told do not drink it.
Maybe they drank it if they were captured and forced to as Andy McNab (S.A.S. Desert Storm) was, he himself states in his book Bravo Two Zero, "We were forced to drink our urine," unquote. During his training chapter he never mentions anything about drinking urine or boiling it in emergencies. Dunno but every school I went to said do not do (see my earlier post0.
Beo,

[BuckBall]

Well Beowulf, I served with two nine commando, 148 Cde F/O Battery, serving in Operation Grandby...or in my American counterparts would call it. The Gulf War. That would also be with SAS units which 148 5 man teams joined in with, as well as US Special Forces directing fire for aircraft. If I may be so bold, that little union jack flying guy means I am UK.

What we are taught in the UK, you Americans are not taught. And if you were to read your history, we lost many a SAS due to inadequote preparations for the night time temps. My information comes from MOD where my file is.

And during WW2 my grandfather was in Africa, where he drank his urine also. You would learn much if you studied other countries armed forces, a flaw that many a US Military serviceman does not do.

For record, I did 15 years active service, 1 year with the Royal Artillery as a Gunner. 10 years with the Commandos as officer and 4 years as an Advisor. Serving in the Gulf War, Kosovo, Sierra Leone and Bosnia.

[crashdive123]

Gosh Remy, somebody strike a nerve?

[BuckBall]

I lived in Poole, England. Now reside in Wisconsin. And just so you know, there are other Englanders who live in the states too.

It's quite alright though, as most yahoos only read what they want to and pick words from what they want to pick at. Just shows me ones intelligent level is all.

[crashdive123]

Not at all, but after all of the talk about how new members to the forum are treated, you might want to let Buckball in on your joke.

[Sarge47]

I have a question for you sir, & it's NOT meant to be a "wise-crack", but a legitamite question. 1st, I believe you were in the branch of armed forces you say you were & you also added that you are taught differently in the UK, correct? If this is so can you explain why, John "Lofty" Wiseman writes, in his book: (pg.42, near the bottom) "The SAS Survival Handbook; How To Survive In The Wild, In Any Climate, On Land Or At Sea": "WARNING (pic of "Skull & Crossbones" that denote POISON!) URINE & SEA WATER Never drink either-Never! But Both can provide drinking water if distilled." Since the SAS is a special branch of the UK military it would seem that they are saying the same thing that the US Military does. Would it not?

[BuckBall]

Ah but it's not a joke.
I am extremely serious...loll

Ok...fine.
Hey Buckball
Welcome to the forum.
...I wrote what i wrote to you as an inside joke thingy.
I was in the French commandos a while back...and upon divulging this horrifying information (i am not proud of it) but one cannot escape the facts, i was told that i was lying. Not only was i never in the commandos, but i was not French either...
Imagine the horror when i awoke to this new past !
You can get both "stories" on a thread called "recusing myself"...in this section.

Anyhoot...
How do you like living in the States ?

As I told someone else in private, having been in the states since 2003, I have found that in Americans eyes, the word "Commando" is related to be special forces, when in all honesty it is not. I have seen this word beaten to death to the point of me wanting to beat the daylights out of the moron who titled the movie Commando with dear arny.

My history is that I starterd off in Artillery as a gunner, but having no father, my mentor was a Capt. who saw potential in me and directed me towards the commandos. Thus I went to Exeter and upon graduation I moved into the commandos. After all my time, I still am not fond of jumping out of aircraft, or worse, being underwater. Unlike the grand adventurous some would think a guy in spec ops would have, and me not being in spec ops I merely called in direct fire which was my role really. Of course, in any conflict (especially behind enemy lines) your main role always changes as mine did a few times. But it was anything but glorious.

I dislike Wisconsin, but hope to land in North Carolina in the coming years. My mate is a southern girl from Georgia, so that would be closer to her home and family.

Now onto Sgt's post

[BuckBall]

I have a question for you sir, & it's NOT meant to be a "wise-crack", but a legitamite question. 1st, I believe you were in the branch of armed forces you say you were & you also added that you are taught differently in the UK, correct? If this is so can you explain why, John "Lofty" Wiseman writes, in his book: (pg.42, near the bottom) "The SAS Survival Handbook; How To Survive In The Wild, In Any Climate, On Land Or At Sea": "WARNING (pic of "Skull & Crossbones" that denote POISON!) URINE & SEA WATER Never drink either-Never! But Both can provide drinking water if distilled." Since the SAS is a special branch of the UK military it would seem that they are saying the same thing that the US Military does. Would it not?

Yes, the UK tends not to mix what other countries are being taught. That would bring sheer chaos in the learning groove, especially to new recruits who don't have any education beyond their school years.

To answer your question...SAS...they are the movie fiascos of the country and just so you're aware, the Royals intrust in the SBS more than the SAS because they are too caught up in the spot light. Therefore whatever the SBS does, the SAS gets the credit. Which is fine, since it then keeps the others out of the spot light.

When one thinks about drinking urine, you actually think of gulping it like water. This is wrong. Drinking a cap full of your water bottle is safe to do so, but any enourmous porportions of it can bring you harm. In a desert setting, or any arid region, having any liquid is a life saver, even if it's your own urine. In WW2 my grandfather did just that, cap fulls until suitable water or beverage could be consumed. He did this for 3 days, one cap full a day. Nothing in extreme quantities. The SAS did this also, cap full if that...just so long as there was some liquid, however I am more than sure they distilled to some degree.

Yes! urine, if you know how, and have the means to do it, can be drinkable if distilled.

Hope this clears things up

[Sarge47]

(Now THIS is a joke) Gotta give you Brits credit, you really know how to party! You're an Animal! Sorta gives a new meaning to phrases like "Pi*s
Off!", or "Pi*s on you!" Sorry Buck, I just can't help myself. But hey, if we're ever in a survival situation together & in desperate need of water you can have my urine 'cuz there ain't no way I'm drinking it!!!!

[Beo]

BuckBall,
I didn't mean to sound as if I doubted you, I was just kinda asking and answering, I never had the pleasure of working with the Brits units in Desert Storm, never did any traaining with them either except a short stint in Germany, respect them for sure.

Remy,
Didn't know that, pretty good bro, I did work with Egyptians in Desert Storm but... well when we went into a city in Iraq they were actually heading the other way, the Iraqi forces were coming in as they (the egyptians, who were the front line of defense of this city) left a Marine Force Recon team on their own, we went in as a back up squad got pulled and had to sit and listen to brave Marines on the radio call in arty fire dang near on their own position, they lost the city but the next day the Marine Commander went back and took that city.