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    Remy - Re: Nell's post and my earlier post in this thread. I'm sure you can agree that if I know your general geographic area then I am better able to offer advice for that area. Edible plants may change, specific locations within that area might be worth mentioning, even dangers could change.

    Age is also important. At least to me. If I know someone is a teenager or younger then I'm a little more hesitant to discuss sharps and weapons. Only because I don't want to contradict advice or rules that a parent might have laid down. That's just me. The information is certainly available here on the forum in other threads and elsewhere. However, I can control what I discuss with them. I can't control what they seek out.

    As to your assertion that we don't know how old you are or where you are from, you are correct. We only know what you have told us. If you choose to be less than truthful, I don't care. I'll discuss topics based on what you have told me. I stopped worrying about untruths a long time ago.

    As for skill levels, all of us have varying skill levels based on the topic. Even within categories. I would consider myself an expert at making fire with char cloth. A numpty noobie at fire drill. If I tell you that then are you not a little more patient in explaining a fire drill for me. Would you not offer up things that could improve my chances of making fire or things that might make using one easier?

    So location, age and skill level DO make a difference to me. Perhaps not for the same reasons as other but I think they are important none-the-less.
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    Okay boys and girls, here comes my big fat 2cents. At the age of 6 I had my own case folder in my pocket, my parents had no idea I had till one day my dad saw it and asked and he didn't care since I already had it. I will give advice to anyone on this forum I want to regardless of age, its my right to do so. I WILL tell a minor what I think the best knife, gun, equipment, clothing is... my choice (if the minor does something he should not its the fault of the parents, be involved in their lives). I will tell them how to skin any animal, what books to read or whatever they want. In Ohio the state law does not forbid carrying a knife of any size or knid, switchblades are even legal here. Age is just a number and mother nature and survival does not care how old you are. As to my rants on survival saving someones life, if they take something I said to do and end up using it in a survival situation then great for them, if it saves there life then even better (pat myself on the back for that if it helps them, he11 pat myself just because I want to
    If they (minors) want a knife then me not telling them to not get one isn't going to stop them. But at least I can try to tell them what has worked for me, WHICH btw is what all our advice is in the end, what we do and what worked for us. Give the kids of today a break, they are not stupid, they grow up and do things a lot faster than we did, so I find comfort in at least imparting what HAS WORKED FOR ME and me alone.
    BUT I will never tell someone to go into the woods with next to nothing and try to survive, that's just me.
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    P.S. (What does P.S. really mean anyway?)
    I consider everyone on here a friendly acquaintance and only a handful actually friends (they have +signs by them), even Sam Reeves, Spud, and BatCat are friendly acquaintances to me because I take what people say with grain of salt, they don't know me so any rants against me are against Beowulf65 on the net and not really me, in the end most people on here are good people and so I treat them accordingly. But that's just me.
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    Yep, sometimes I am serious. I always had ready access to knives and guns. I was taught they were tools, not toys. I can't remember when I didn't carry a knife. I spent my early years in KY and never, never saw anyone use a knife in a fight. I won't say adults didn't resort to guns but that was seldom. My son was taught that if he wanted to see or shoot a particular gun he asked me. I never refused and he was taught under my supervision just like I was and like his 3 children are. I worried about power tools more. Times have changed, kids planted in front of a computer playing violent games and what they see and hear on TV isn't helping. TV & computers are instant babysitters IMO. I know it sounds like the line of a country song but my Grandpa, Daddy and other adults did teach me to live off the land. Grandpa was born in 1895 and folks that taught me only if I was sincere were born before 1890. I only wish I could remember everything I was taught. Like Rick said I am a little hesitant about teaching a youngster about anything that could harm themselves or others. At a church function for youngsters one boy at that "know everything" age and twice my size grabbed my arm and I used a quick simple wrist lock to put him on his knees. He was amazed an old man could drop him that quick, but I wouldn't show him how and won't. I regret doing it, and for that matter In this crazy world I don't get friendly with kids. Most of us know more than we want to tell and I know it's impersonal when a kid asks a question about weapons etc. but we don't know his age or mental condition, therefore the rule for me is caution. Kids can kill people as dead as adults as some of you have seen. I will not knowingly tell anyone that I personally don't know online how to do anything that could cause them or others harm. Most of us could write a book on how to harm or kill other people but we don't. Good question for remy, but in my mind a simple answer, I care and don't really have any pride in things I did in my younger days to survive some situations. I will always back down from anyone if I can, unless my family or friends may come to harm. When challenged, which is very seldom now I can back down knowing I could drop the person easily but don't have anything to prove. Long winded this morning but some of you will understand what I'm trying to say, others won't.
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    After reading through the posts again I'm gonna back track on my statements that age doesn't matter. I'm starting to see what LW, Rick and others are saying.

    Younger people today are not the same as when I grew up. They are generally very irresponsible for their safety and the safety of others. We have a hiring policy at my company with respect to age. No one is hired under the age of 21. The construction business is a dangerous place to work and since the policy was set in place in 1999, our claims were reduced 42% almost overnight.

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    you have a policy on that? wow that opens you up to a discrimination lawsuit
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    It is what it is, too many people were getting hurt. We call it "experience".

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    [QUOTE=BraggSurvivor;64210]After reading through the posts again I'm gonna back track on my statements that age doesn't matter. I'm starting to see what LW, Rick and others are saying.

    Younger people today are not the same as when I grew up. They are generally very irresponsible for their safety and the safety of others.QUOTE]

    Bragg, my respect for you has just increased 10 fold. It's a sure sign of intellegence when a person looks at the facts & makes "a new decision based on new information." I don't consider it "back-tracking", just learning. Props from me to you, my Wolf-brother.

    Beo, I moving to Ohio if you can legally own a switchblade there. Illinois has to be one of the worse states in the country regarding weapons control; probably because of the high crime rate in Chicago. Regardless, if approached by anybody who's age I'm not sure of then I'm asking questions; if they dign not to answer then niether will I. BTW, if one of Remy's profiles was accurate last year he should be pushing 40.
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    Oh, crud, I must be pulling 50 then..... Do you have to drag 60?
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    well to play devils advocate 18 or 21 if no experience still dangerous at 21 that is why we have aprenticeships to help teach these pups the trade
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    And Beo you are correct. No one has, or should have, a bulls eye painted on them. The diss is to your user name, not you. Good insight!!!
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    Yeah Rick your pulling 50 and when you turn 60 either drag it or have youngster carry it for you. Age is a number to me, keep doing what you do and it'll never hamper you. Excerise is the key, the military has proven this to me. The old salts that still do PT (physical training) ran with us and stayed up, high speed low drag is the way to be. Excerise can be in the form of woods walking, camping, trekking for miles, or just being active. Pain is only weakness leaving the body, hooya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wareagle69 View Post
    well to play devils advocate 18 or 21 if no experience still dangerous at 21 that is why we have aprenticeships to help teach these pups the trade
    Your right WE. But for general laborers, who have most likely dropped out of high school, or are on summer holidays from college, their maturity levels are most time not up to par. (for my firm anyways) That extra 3-4 years of sowing their wild oates makes a big difference. I can't afford as an owner to have them hurt themselves or hurt someone else. Over the years, I have made a couple exceptions to the rule, either personally knowing the greenhorns or their parents.

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    Three cheers for Remy!!! Hip Hip Hoyah!!! Hip Hip Hoyah!!! Hip Hip Hoyah!!! And bro do relize we actually agree on something now? Hmmm are you rubbing off on me?
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    Beo, it must be something that you caught on the river, I'm sure treated correctly you'll get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remy View Post
    I do not have one set of answers for over 18, and one set of answers for under 18 when it comes to survival technics.
    I'm wondering if you ever raised any children...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Wolf View Post
    I'm wondering if you ever raised any children...
    Obviously not.....
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    I do and I don't, I got a kid... You know him as Trooper and I don't sugar coat anything for him. I tell him the same as I would an adult and always have. He11 by the time he was 7 he could sweep and clear my house with his play H&K MP5 as good as any SWAT member No crap.
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    Yes,beo,but you were there 24/7 to teach him,whose going to be with the young newbies on here when they go out and try some of the stuff they may get information for on here?
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