Recusing myself!

**crashdive123** · 07-31-2008, 05:53 PM

Friends.

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**Rick** · 07-31-2008, 06:11 PM

'Bout time you showed up!

**nell67** · 07-31-2008, 06:19 PM

Remy,
no one is trying to shut down the new comers,what would be stupid,or silly is to give information to someone you know absolutely nothing about:age,location,experience,we have a diverse forum here,members from all over the country and a few others as well,so my guess is,that a newbie from anywhere in the US or Canada can get good information that is geared towards their area,not just generic,throw out there to anyone information.

Thats the reason for asking these questions,to make it safer for them using the information requested.If thats silly,so be it.I guess when questions are asked by new members,the info should be just thrown at them,with out any regard to their safety,which would include knowing their age,location,and experience.

Thats kind of like having open season on the newbie.

**crashdive123** · 07-31-2008, 06:23 PM

Rebel - Most damage can be repaired. Most wounds will heal. I'm not sure of the specifics (you and I joined about the same time), but I'd say you're doing just fine.

**BraggSurvivor** · 07-31-2008, 06:37 PM

But the burning question, the IMPORTANT question, the thing we all really need to know is....Bragg, what's this about fur nipple clamps? C'mon, tell.......

<embarrassed>**** I thought everyone up north had a pair of fur nipple clamps for the wild? ****<slowly putting them back in the bedside table>

**crashdive123** · 07-31-2008, 06:40 PM

Just put them in the box with the rest of the survival gear.

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**Sarge47** · 07-31-2008, 06:40 PM

Here's the way I see it: If I were to meet anyone here "face to face", I would be respectful & introduce myself 1st. Nobody owes me anything, but I have a responsibility to act in a considerate manner, especially if I'm asking for information. If I'm asked questions about age, location, & experience in order for the person asked to better assist me I would give it unflinchingly. I expect the same attitude from others who ask of me. Remy says that we shouldn't expect Newbys to know where all the previous info is & I say yes & no. When a member here posts a link in response to their question(s) then they should take the time to read over the information, not get offended. If they are acting badly & won't quit, then we need to nip it in the bud. They may do things differently in places like France, but that's the way I view it. Back when TBWN showed up one of them just came in telling us what they planned to do in just a few short months, then asked for info regarding "wild edibles" growing in the area they were planning on going into. I queried them about already planning to go without having learned about the edible plants indeginous to the region in advance...no response. More members asked questions & gave advice...again, no response. When they finally did it was to criticize us for treating them badly. (Awww.

) It became obvious, from visiting their website, that they viewed themselves as the next Bear Grylls or Les Stroud, on the Discovery Channel. I was not a Mod. back then & hadn't been here very long, but got into a "squirting contest" with another member who was actually the only member agreeing with these guys. They're the only posts I regret writing as it was a definate waste of time & accomplished nothing. As for TBWN, they gave up in less than half the time they planned on being out in the Maniotoba Wilderness in winter &, last I heard, were charging people money on their website to view their "misadventure". "Stupid is as stupid does". I refuse to "walk on eggshells" when anyone shows up assuming they can by-pass customary protocol & expect us all to drop everything & give them our undivided attention without having to give us any info back in order to answer their questions that they asked in the 1st place. Nobody treats me that way face-to-face & I won't tolerate it here either.

**BraggSurvivor** · 07-31-2008, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by crashdive123

Just put them in the box with the rest of the survival gear.

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Ahh, that was frikken funny. Excellent!!!!!

**crashdive123** · 07-31-2008, 06:53 PM

I will continue to ask questions that will help me provide what they (anybody) is looking for. I will ask them politely (I think I do). If I receive no response....neither will they.

**Rick** · 07-31-2008, 08:15 PM

(writing stuff down.....Zebra duster....check. Funky paddle with holes....check. ........)

**Sarge47** · 07-31-2008, 09:17 PM

To sort of quote Hopeak from an earlier post: "Pleasing you, or trying to wade through your excessive verbage is not on my "To Do" list. Think what you want, say what you want, go where you want, believe what you want; knock yourself out. This is still a "free" country; well, sort of.

**Sarge47** · 07-31-2008, 09:31 PM

for the rest of the Wolf-Pack let me explain it this way as I know that most of you have an I.Q. larger than your shoe-size. If someone comes on this site with a picture of a really large knife & asks "do we think that he/she should buy it" I'm going to ask them their age as I will not recommend ANY knife to anyone under 18 years of age as that's how old they're supposed to be to buy a knife, especially a large one, anyway. I know that there are those who will encourage youths to purchase bladed goods, but not me. As far as Remy is concerned....let's see...where IS that "ignore" button? Oh, there it is. G'bye Remy.

**BraggSurvivor** · 07-31-2008, 09:42 PM

You are right on the money remy.

Brought a little tear to my eye when you mentioned me in your post too.

**BraggSurvivor** · 07-31-2008, 09:48 PM

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**Gray Wolf** · 07-31-2008, 10:27 PM

Remy,
If you don't understand the relevance of knowing the persons age, their knowledge of the equipment they posses, their experience in the wilderness etc, then you need to evaluate how you think you can help them to survive.

**BraggSurvivor** · 07-31-2008, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Remy,
If you don't understand the relevance of knowing the persons age, their knowledge of the equipment they posses, their experience in the wilderness etc, then you need to evaluate how you think you can help them to survive.

Why Grey Wolf?

My one daughter that is 12 years old could run circles around half the people around here in respect to survival. It's just her thing.

We are talking about first time posters here. I think they need a little lee-way is all. Again, steering them in the right direction without being a "dick" when they say something or ask a stupid question.

**Sarge47** · 07-31-2008, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Remy,
If you don't understand the relevance of knowing the persons age, their knowledge of the equipment they posses, their experience in the wilderness etc, then you need to evaluate how you think you can help them to survive.

You can at least know what KIND of advice to give them. Bragg, Your daughter is an exception from the rule as her father is there to teach her. For example, I know that there are people on this site that can point fingers at you, me, or themselves & point out that we all owned knives at an extremely young age; yes I did, but it was with PARENTAL CONSENT; something that needs to be considered in this "sue-happy" country we live in, & I know you know what I'm talking about. Also laws are different now, so I'm very careful about what I tell any minor; given my job, I'm required by law to.

**Gray Wolf** · 07-31-2008, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by remy

Most of all...i never thought or would think i could help someone survive...that would be pretentious and dangerous. Survival advice is not my specialization...and in case you haven't noticed...i do not give any.

Oh I've noticed.. And if you don't think age matters (maturity, experience, knowledge of what's needed, and state laws) then you know less than I thought. JMHO

**Sarge47** · 08-01-2008, 12:34 AM

Here's a "news-flash" for some of you as many of you may already know this...or not: One of my sidelines is that I'm a Magician, & unlike my compadres here in this town I do the unthinkable...kid shows! Awhile back I was watching some tapes that teach magic to see if the tricks would be easy enough for my 10 year-old Grandson to do & was very surprised when, after doing a simple trick with a book of matches, the instructor went on to warn anybody under the age of 18 to NOT do the trick! I do not do any tricks in front of children that could somehow encourage them to try the same thing & get hurt in the process. No knives, razor blades, match tricks, or rope tricks where the rope goes around the neck. I was very surprised, also, when I was told not to do a trick that I myself had invented & thought it would be perfect for children...A comedy version of the infamous "bullet-catching" trick using an empty SQUIRT GUN. Seems that a lot of parents might frown on that. I will confess that I was totally taken by surprise, but gave in as I really need the money; it's not bad pay for a half-hour's work.

I also belong to a very large Magician's Forum. (Many Top-name Magiocians are members.) When I last visited it they were only 10 people away from having 36,000 members & they boast almost a quarter-million posts. They have very strict rules about thread-crossing as well as introducing one's self if you want to get some really great feed-back! They have no problen at all moving a post or deleting it entirely, or dicplining/banning the member if the rules aren't strictly adhered to. I find this very interesting.

**klkak** · 08-01-2008, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by crashdive123

Rebel - I disagree. The number of posts - just means you've been talking for awhile. The + sign is not visible to anybody but you. They are people that you've selected for you "friends list". I'm looking at a + next to your screen name now, I don't think that makes you an elitist. Join date - just an historical reference. Some people have been here for a long time and made a few posts, while others have made many. Some people have registered and tried to make 100 posts in their first 10 minutes. I believe I've made friends with several people on the forum, people that I would be proud and honored to trek out into the wilderness with. There are also some that I've met that I have .... let's just say a less than friendly relationship with. Really no different than day to day life. As far as being too rough on the newer members, yeah that sometimes goes on. For me, I try to be cordial and offer up good advice when I have it. When somebody asks a question and doesn't like the answer they recieve they sometimes respond with a less than friendly response. I know most people here can take care of themselves, I just don't like seeing my friends being attacked. I will defend them.

Crash, I wanna be your friend. Can we be friends?