Survivorman/Man vs. Wild.

**trax** · 08-13-2007, 05:00 PM

That was perfect!!

**donny h** · 08-13-2007, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by spiritman

A few of my teachers got outright mad when i would summarize too much. I always used as little description as possible when they wanted as much as possible.

I can appreciate that, it's like Einstein said, "make things as simple as possible, but no simpler".

Because the Bear bashing seems to have slowed, let me point out another piece of his bad advice.

In the Moab episode, he drinks water seeping from rocks, and explains this naturally filters it and it's safe to drink.

In that region of Utah some of those seeps are naturally too salty for human consumption, and others are contaminated with URANIUM

, both from naturally occuring and manmade sources.

My point? Just because water has filtered through soil does not mean it's safe to drink, no matter what Bear says.

Also in that episode, he swims under a log snag in a slot canyon. There is no scenario (including infotainment shows like Bears) where that act is considered anything but suicidally stupid.

**blewgrass** · 08-14-2007, 03:25 PM

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it strange that it just disappeared and Les Stroud shows up. I like survivorman anyway, but my five year old daughter is asking for Bear Gryls. The drinking of the pee and other advice can be dangerous and kill someone lost in the bush.

**Chris** · 08-14-2007, 10:56 PM

Also in that episode, he swims under a log snag in a slot canyon. There is no scenario (including infotainment shows like Bears) where that act is considered anything but suicidally stupid.

I think I remember that episode, and I remember thinking how utterly stupid that was and how irresponsible it was to put that on TV in a frame as if it were a good idea.

**ATough** · 08-26-2007, 10:50 PM

I cant beleive that theres no thread about this.
what do you guys think about the new season?
I love it.

**Sarge47** · 08-26-2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by survivorman.

I cant beleive that theres no thread about this.
what do you guys think about the new season?
I love it.

We HAVE been posting about it, I've watched them all and really enjoyed the last one as it utilized more equipment.

**ATough** · 08-26-2007, 11:07 PM

that ones my favorite episode of all times.

**Sarge47** · 08-26-2007, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by survivorman.

that ones my favorite episode of all times.

What I found interesting is that he had a gun never fired because he couldn't locate any game. He had a fishing kit and a hole cut through the ice, yet he couldn't catch any fish. I thought the scene where he had to eat the old meat he'd given to the dogs was pretty gross.

**Fog_Harbor** · 08-27-2007, 01:30 AM

Because of the discussions here, I've looked more critically at both shows (MvW and SM). I like Les' show more, becuase it IS more realistic, and he takes criticism better...

**ATough** · 09-01-2007, 07:36 PM

hey does anyone know the two medical supplys les used to start a fire in his new episode?

**Sarge47** · 09-01-2007, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by survivorman.

hey does anyone know the two medical supplys les used to start a fire in his new episode?

It's something you can't buy in America because of the "pyrotechnic capabilities". US Govt. & Homeland Security. He probably got it in Canada or even Africa. I know it involved Rhino poop and durned if I can find any Rhinos here in Ill.!

**ATough** · 09-01-2007, 08:30 PM

check ebay.

**Fog_Harbor** · 09-02-2007, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

It's something you can't buy in America because of the "pyrotechnic capabilities". US Govt. & Homeland Security. He probably got it in Canada or even Africa. I know it involved Rhino poop and durned if I can find any Rhinos here in Ill.!

Yeah, Stalin and Hitler both knew - unarmed citizens are MUCH easier to control.

...My shame is, I teach cops to kill...

**survivalhike** · 09-04-2007, 02:03 PM

In light of the whole truth coming out about Bear Grylls and what he actually did while the cameras were turned off, there is one thing that really makes me mad. If he would have just told the truth about some of the things that he faked, or let people know that he would be trying some survival skills out that are more unorthodox, I would have given him a break. If you are going to fake something to teach people what to do in the situation...JUST TELL ME YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT! I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's hard to film a survival show because you don't know if a situation will come along where you can film skills other than shelter making and fire making. If you need to dramatize something just let the people know that you are doing it for educational purposes, and we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Survivorman told his audience that he had a two way radio, walkie talkie, and tied his raft to a rescue boat in a storm during his "lost at sea" episode, and no one bit his head off! He said that the storm could possibly send him so far out to sea that he could die, and that no TV show was worth that. No big deal, he was honest, and we understand.
Also, BG should stop doing things like jumping into rivers that he has no idea of the depth, jumping over gaps in rocks that are fifteen feet plus in depth, and running in whatever direction he pleases because he is going to get viewers killed. In a survival situation the last thig you should be doing is taking big risks with your body. If you break a leg jumping into a river, the rescue crew will find your dead body about 100 yards from the river because you couldn't crawl any further before you died of exhaustion.
Survivorman might be a bit mre bland of a show, but that is because he does things logically and does not take chances with his life. I believe he is more honest than BG, and because of that he'll last longer. BG should take a lesson and just be more honest. Oh...and stop staying the night in a hotel that serves blueberry pancakes in your hot tub for breakfast too.

**Sarge47** · 09-04-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by survivalhike

In light of the whole truth coming out about Bear Grylls and what he actually did while the cameras were turned off, there is one thing that really makes me mad. If he would have just told the truth about some of the things that he faked, or let people know that he would be trying some survival skills out that are more unorthodox, I would have given him a break. If you are going to fake something to teach people what to do in the situation...JUST TELL ME YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT! I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's hard to film a survival show because you don't know if a situation will come along where you can film skills other than shelter making and fire making. If you need to dramatize something just let the people know that you are doing it for educational purposes, and we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Survivorman told his audience that he had a two way radio, walkie talkie, and tied his raft to a rescue boat in a storm during his "lost at sea" episode, and no one bit his head off! He said that the storm could possibly send him so far out to sea that he could die, and that no TV show was worth that. No big deal, he was honest, and we understand.
Also, BG should stop doing things like jumping into rivers that he has no idea of the depth, jumping over gaps in rocks that are fifteen feet plus in depth, and running in whatever direction he pleases because he is going to get viewers killed. In a survival situation the last thig you should be doing is taking big risks with your body. If you break a leg jumping into a river, the rescue crew will find your dead body about 100 yards from the river because you couldn't crawl any further before you died of exhaustion.
Survivorman might be a bit mre bland of a show, but that is because he does things logically and does not take chances with his life. I believe he is more honest than BG, and because of that he'll last longer. BG should take a lesson and just be more honest. Oh...and stop staying the night in a hotel that serves blueberry pancakes in your hot tub for breakfast too.

I really believe, after your post here, that could do alright on your upcoming trek. Way to go SH!

**survivalhike** · 09-04-2007, 05:44 PM

If you go to google and type in "Man Vs Wild scandal" you will get a thousand hits about the things that people have come forward and said he has done to spice up the action and fake things. It's more of an entertaining show than anything else. For real survival skills watch Survivorman Les Stroud...Much better, and more honest.

**survivalhike** · 09-04-2007, 06:23 PM

Thank you very much Sarge, I really appreciate it. I've been sick for two days now and being bored and surfing the internet has landed me on this forum. I couldn't be happier to have found this page and I have learned much in the last couple of days. I am really enjoying this forum, and thanks again.

**Sarge47** · 09-04-2007, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by survivalhike

Thank you very much Sarge, I really appreciate it. I've been sick for two days now and being bored and surfing the internet has landed me on this forum. I couldn't be happier to have found this page and I have learned much in the last couple of days. I am really enjoying this forum, and thanks again.

No problem, check out the advice I gave on your introctuctory thread about Cody Lundin.

**wareagle69** · 09-04-2007, 06:41 PM

there are at last count seven survival schools in az the two most famous being cody"s and BOSS yes i know it is the boulder outdoor survival school but they are based out of az even flagstaff i do believe my favoritve school is ancient pathways up on flagstaff about 3 hrs or so from gilbert all depending on the trafic going up the 17 hey have they finished the 101 and the 202 loops yet when i lefi in 2001 i lived of the 101 in glendale that side was finished. r u a country fan? i used to ride bulls down at mr luckeys off of indian scholl rd but my bro says they closed it down finally any how best of luck to ya.

**survivalhike** · 09-11-2007, 07:42 PM

I think the new season is great. I like that he is using more stuff now than he has been in the past from his kit. I wouldn't even mind seeing him use a regular survival kit that he personally made (more comprehensive than the Labrador one) and show us how he can live out of a paint can full of goodies. Everything from shelter, to fire, to water, to food.

Also, though he never seems to be able to catch any food for himself I think that is a more realistic protrayal of survival than not. It's like professional fishing tournaments where 18 hours of footage is edited down to only contain the 3 quick minutes where they actually caught a fish.

Survival sounds boaring.