need legal advice please

**DOGMAN** · 06-09-2008, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Jason - With all due respect, I don't think you are cut out for caring for animals under these circumstances. You obviously get attached to them and you can't do that. I think Frank has offered the very best advice,

You have to ask yourself if you are willing to risk the wrath of the judicial system over a couple of animals. I know that sounds cruel but that's really what it boils down to. Let the dogs go. You've done a very good deed but it's time to say goodbye and good luck. Based only on this post, I wouldn't volunteer for that assignment again. By the way, I'm not being critical. There are a lot of folks that would become attached to the dogs.

I don't think your being critical. I pretty much decided I wouldn't do this again, after the court ruled the way they have. Honestly, I'm not attached to them- the way one would be to their pet. What's hard for me, is knowing that they're going back to a hellish situation. I feel more sorry for them than anything. I could give them up no problem- if I knew they were going to a decent place. I think anyone who ever saw these dogs or the conditions they had to live in couldn't help but to feel the same way. I actually believe that the young guy who owns them is mentally ill- not a cruel animal beater. He can't even take care of himself because of his illness, so obviously trying to take care of over 30 animals is going to be beyond him.
I met his dad today. His dad was very nice and thankful, and embarassed...however, he is blinded by a parents love. I do respect him though for trying to do the right thing, and take responsiblity for his sons actions. However, the dogs will go back to the son once this is all settled.

**Rick** · 06-09-2008, 04:04 PM

I'm sorry to hear that. The dogs don't have a voice in the matter and that's the sad part.

**Ken** · 06-09-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

I've been an Insurance salesman, a car salesman, and in school wanted to become a lawyer but didn't have the grades 'cause I was lazy & refused to study. Those, according to society, are the 3 "worse" occupations one can have...until you're hip-deep in poop, need a car, or have to pay a hospital bill or a funeral. Then all of sudden we're the salt of the earth. Society makes me chuckle now & again.

Thanks, Sarge. I get that ribbing from loads of folks who end up calling when they, a family member, or a friend got arrested "by mistake" or on "false charges."

Guess who often get falsly accused on a regular basis? Police officers. I've represented several officers over the years charged with crimes as "payback" for doing their jobs.

One client, good cop, gets accused of child-rape by a distant relative. Claims it occurred years before at some family event. Goes though Internal Affairs investigation, outside investigation, desk-duty, surrenders badge and firearm, and experiences a lonely period when his friends stay far away. Guess what we discover just before the case goes before the Grand Jury? Turns out he arrested this distant relatives boyfriend on serious drug charges following a routine traffic stop. Payback.

**Assassin Pilot** · 06-09-2008, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ken

WARNING: Before you read the following, you agree that you and/or your heirs ain't gonna' sue me if you have a heart attack, even if you die from that heart attack.

There are still some of us who don't chase ambulances, sell themselves like hookers, or advertise.

Almost 25 years in practice. Advertising dollars spent: ZERO. Client source: almost all are referrals from past clients and other lawyers. Many clients ARE other lawyers.

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**Rick** · 06-09-2008, 08:50 PM

One down. Many, many more to go.

**Sarge47** · 06-09-2008, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ken

Thanks, Sarge. I get that ribbing from loads of folks who end up calling when they, a family member, or a friend got arrested "by mistake" or on "false charges."

Guess who often get falsly accused on a regular basis? Police officers. I've represented several officers over the years charged with crimes as "payback" for doing their jobs.

One client, good cop, gets accused of child-rape by a distant relative. Claims it occurred years before at some family event. Goes though Internal Affairs investigation, outside investigation, desk-duty, surrenders badge and firearm, and experiences a lonely period when his friends stay far away. Guess what we discover just before the case goes before the Grand Jury? Turns out he arrested this distant relatives boyfriend on serious drug charges following a routine traffic stop. Payback.

I've got a Cousin living in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin who's retired from the Force after 23 years. He was telling me how, when someone sued a cop, they sued the whole dept.. He'd lost count of the times he was sued, but never convicted! Gotta take the bad with the good I suppose. If I ever need a lawyer, and I'm innocent, I want Vincent Bugulosi. I read his books, ("And The Sea Will Tell" was awesome!) that guy's amazing! if I'm guilty I want OJ's "Dream Team", though J Cochran's gone.

**dilligaf2u2** · 06-09-2008, 11:52 PM

I am a pro Se civil litigate!

You have the right to petition the court for custody. You have bonded with the animals and they have bonded with your dogs. You offer them a good home and proper care. Ask that a court date be set on this matter before you release the animals to someone else.

This is a delaying action. It will be weeks before you have to be in court. If no one shows up to contest the request you have made, you win the case. Bring all the recorded records you can get as to their condition before you got them and a vet report on their present condition.

A good lawyer would be a help!

Don

Give me a yell if you need help with this!