Do you WISH that the SHTF...????

**Rick** · 01-14-2008, 07:37 AM

When folks feel they have no control over their environment, they want to blame someone else. That's a whole lot easier than taking responsibility for their circumstance and doing something about it. My theory (for what its worth) is there are three types of people in this world. 1. The very small minority who can do nothing about their circumstance (on life support for example). 2. The very small minority that will rise above no matter what obstacle they face. 3. The overwhelming vast majority in the middle that want to b**ch about how bad life is but do nothing about it. Point the finger and proclaim someone else a witch. "That's why my life sucks, it's their fault" mentality and I don't buy into it. They seem to want TSHTF or TEOTWAWKI so other people or the government will end dominion over them. But it won't change and they don't understand that. It will continue after something happens because they won't change. It will only change who they call a witch.

Change is inevitable but it doesn't have to be some uncontrolled catastrophic event. And governments transition and change and grow. We should be able to adapt (just like we do with the weather in the bush) to those inevitable changes.

As to the world community, it's just a natural extension for man. We traded between clans, tribes, cities, then states and now countries. Who knows, we may someday live under a single government. And I can't proclaim that good or bad. It will be what we make of it.

**trax** · 01-14-2008, 11:37 AM

Trained in martial arts because I didn't want to fight....

Been doing the wilderness thing all my life, so if I'm not trained by now I never will be. I'm always learning more though.

TSHTF...I hope I'm ready, I think I am. Do I want it to happen? Nope.

I proclaim that one government or many governments are all a waste of my time and money.

**Elkchsr** · 01-14-2008, 01:47 PM

A 'Garden of Eden' environment and existance where everything was 'provided' for us in a state of bliss. Now that we have to deal with the weeds that surround us

This is perfect, and I believe this has been one of mans down falls (only seeing the ills of the world and striving for what the Jones have)

It’s really only perception of ones surroundings

If you want to see beauty, you will see it

If you want to see disease, then that’s all you'll see

**corndog-44** · 01-14-2008, 04:24 PM

"withdrawing into artificial wombs"...well said, remy.

**FVR** · 01-14-2008, 05:44 PM

Heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllll NO!

Maybe in my dreams. NOT! Reminds me of the Jarheads who really wanted to go kill people...young and stupid. Who wants to kill people? Who wants the Sheot to hit the fan? Only those who think too much of themselves.

People gonna die, your family members may die, your friends may die, YOU may die.

To dream of such nonsense is childish.

To prepare for such nonsense is smart.

**trax** · 01-14-2008, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by FVR

Heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllll NO!

Maybe in my dreams. NOT! Reminds me of the Jarheads who really wanted to go kill people...young and stupid. Who wants to kill people? Who wants the Sheot to hit the fan? Only those who think too much of themselves.

People gonna die, your family members may die, your friends may die, YOU may die.

To dream of such nonsense is childish.

To prepare for such nonsense is smart.

Yep, that's why we're buddies, buddy!

**canid** · 01-14-2008, 07:45 PM

i've know a couple like that. thought the world existed to give them a chance to shoot 'enemies' in the face. only two people have ever made me that mad, and i actually knew them, and exercised restraint.

i thought it would help a lot of people, on the whole, when i was younger. i was right a little, but forgot about the far greater numbers who would suffer. people would still fall into abuse and exploitative situations, some would still feel the need to take whatever they want from their community, etc.

**Catfish** · 01-14-2008, 10:30 PM

I think there are those who genuinely hope that the SHTF, so they can live out their fantasies of being survivalists. Just like there are people (I know some personally) who get their CCP in the secret hope that one day they'll be 'forced' to defend themselves. And the ones who were genuinely disappointed that nothing major happened on 12/31/1999.

I also suspect that if the S ever really does HTF, those types won't last 5 minutes.