Best survival gun and type?

[Pict]

For the record I have never fired an RPG or LAW. Full discolsure. Don't make the mistake of taking me too seriously in this thread. Mac

[Rick]

Never underestimate the extent to which someone will go to protect their home or their religion.

[Pict]

Rick,

While I agree with you on that I sincerely believe the faith will go on and actually gets stronger under persecution. That said, if people are ever going to be rounded up into cattle cars for their faith (whatever it may be) you could count me in the group that doesn't roll over and say mooo. Mac

[Rick]

Ditto, my friend. Both on the belief and being led to the...well, you know.

[crashdive123]

Mac - nah - not taking you serious, well except for those fine videos and pics you've been posting.

[klkak]

Mac, I don't think you are some sort of maniac preparing for the next world war. I respect what you are doing down there and your video's are informative. I would enjoy spending time with you talking faith and survival / bushcraft.

[Pict]

klkak,

PM sent. Back in 2004 I got to go to AK. I have family near Anchorage. Alaska is too cool for words, no pun intended. Mac

[klkak]

klkak,

PM sent. Back in 2004 I got to go to AK. I have family near Anchorage. Alaska is too cool for words, no pun intended. Mac

lol, Well if you ever feel you need to cool off again let me know. There is this village up on the slope that would be perfect for a person of your skill and character.

[dragonjimm]

I personally dont own a pistol. i did qualify with them in the military but never enough to consider myself proficient.
the best side arm is a 20ga pump youth model full stock.

vanilla,

My MOS was 19 kilo meaning M1A1 Abrams crewman so i'm fairly qualified to say it doesnt take much to knock out a tank, go for the engine its the least armored and easiest to get to.

and if i think Pict could find students no matter the outside temp but i'd be more inclined to attend if its at least in the positives by several numbers.

my toe is feeling much better thank you..


and i've got a 15lb beef brisket on the smoker

[klkak]

I got to ride as a crew member in an Abrams once. I even got to load, aim and fire the main gun. 120,000 lbs. of rolling thunder. After words I watch as the crew fired at a target while doing 30 or 40 mph. They fired 3 shots and hit the target 3 times. I'm just guessing but the range looked like at least a couple thousand meters.

[dragonjimm]

i think max is 4000 -6000 meters but most shots will be under 3000 and less then 200 the muzzle blast gets em

when i was the loader i could consistently load 8 rounds a minute of 120mm. course me and the gunner were likely to have a few words afterwards
cordite is a wonderful substitute for crack

[Rick]

Dragonjimm - M1A1 huh? Sort of gives you a new found respect for the men that fought in an M3A1 doesn't it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_tank

[Ole WV Coot]

so thats where the iraqis got that from lol i knew they couldnt possibly be as wiley as i thought they were

Is that the same story I heard about the Iraqi instructor telling his troops as he held the hammer QUOTE: Ima only gonna show you thisa one a time ! ! ! I also heard they need instructors kinda bad.

[Pict]

Come on Coot, everyone knows you practice this using a rubber mallet. Mac

[dragonjimm]

yep or anything previous to the abrahms those guys in the shermans had it rough. the 75mm guns couldnt even punch through tiger armor. i have seen some pictures of a tiger tank with five depressions on the front slope from 75mm guns. nasty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_tank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I

although the M60A3 tanks are still proving themselves battle worthy. some are still in iraq and the marines used them during desert storm.

m48's are still working in several countries with some modern upgrades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M48_Patton#Variants

and half the world is using the M113 in some variant or another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M113


nothing beats cruising down the interstate at about 70 plus mph grinning like a mule in the rose bushes.
or 28 hour shifts on the range in the cold and rain.
or maneuvers in ft polk la in that lovely sumer time weather they have.

any body else here from around birmingham remember the veterans day parade after desert storm i was in one of the tanks during burn outs at the itersections

[dragonjimm]

is there any thing wikipedia doesnt cover....hmmmmm

[Rick]

I have a picture somewhere of four or five dud 88s that hit the turret on a Sherman. They are sticking half way inside the turret.

The only advantage the Sherman had on the Tigers was speed. Not only could the 88 far outreach the 75mm on the M4 but every time the Sherman fired it was engulfed in smoke and they couldn't see the enemy. It was early '45 before they started getting smokeless munitions. As odd as it sounds, the U.S. didn't use cordite in WWII.

The M10, on the other hand, was pretty handy to have around with its 96 mm gun. Once they field rigged a cover for the turret they had a pretty good vehicle.

[Sourdough]

Eight years from now someone is going to do a search for O'say, "Best survival firearm and type". He is going to say, Wow those guys really, really had BIG survival firearms, Surely they lived through TEOTWAWKI. Sherman Tanks, Tigers, Abrams......

[Rick]

And Spud thinks his itty .50 cal is protection enough. Pfffft.

[countybob]

the best survival weapon to have is, in my opinion something to dependably take small game. if you know you are out gunned by the two legged predators you wont get cocky! the best way to survive an armed confrontation is to avoid it in the first place! by the way dragonjimm is the quote at the end of your posts from my favorite author, heinlein? i wonder how many here have read tunnel in the sky....great book! countybob